Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jay Pinkerton


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Courcelles 08:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Jay Pinkerton

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Subject does not appear to meet the WP:BIO and general WP:NOTABILITY requirements. Vaypertrail (talk) 01:51, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Could not find any reliable, independent sources. Fails notability. - MrX 02:24, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Apparently well-known to a degree, but does not appear notable based on widespread coverage in reliable sources.   dci  &#124;  TALK   02:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:CREATIVE states, "The person's work [...] has won significant critical attention". I think Portal 2 can be said to have won significant critical attention. CREATIVE also says, "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject [...] of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." I believe Portal 2 has been the subject of multiple independent periodical articles and reviews. Interview for RPS, nominated for Telegraph's 2011 VGA for Best Script, Kotaku made Portal 2 their 2011 Game of the Year and wrote, "We voted for Erik Wolpaw, Jay Pinkerton and Chet Faliszek, the writers that kept us in stiches at every turn." --Odie5533 (talk) 13:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. In addition to the National Post interview, which is quite extensive, I found this interview at Gothamist, which is also quite detailed. On GameSpot, there is a podcast interview with him and a few other game designers. I think those three interviews should be enough to pass WP:GNG. —Torchiest talkedits 14:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * All these sources are passing in mentions with the other co-writers of Portal 2. (WP:1E) Gothamist is a blog. Is there anything else more solid? This article seems to be stuck as a Permastub.--Vaypertrail (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain that a blog is automatically unreliable. I'll have to check the audio interview later.  However, I also found this article from Philadelphia Weekly that is specifically about Pinkerton. —Torchiest talkedits 21:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 00:53, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per Torchiest's sources and Odie5533's comments re: WP:CREATIVE. The article clearly needs to be improved and it seems there are multiple RSes to do so. -Thibbs (talk) 05:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Go   Phightins  !  01:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - agree that the sources found confer some notability and I agree with Odie5533's analysis of WP:CREATIVE with regard to the subject at hand. That's enough for me. Stalwart 111  01:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - As defined in WP:CREATIVE, this person's achievements are largely in part only due to the successes of Cracked.com, a much more notable entity. Mkdw talk 03:49, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * What about his work on Portal 2, named Game of the Year by many publications and nominated for a BAFTA for best story, a story which was co-written by Pinkerton? --Odie5533 (talk) 04:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep IF the article is re-written in the context that this person is notable and their entry is largely centred around their work on Portal, and not as a contributor to Cracked and other websites. If we were to examine this person in the context of their work to websites they would certainly not meet the criteria for inclusion. Mkdw talk 22:18, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - The editorial articles and interviews fulfill WP:GNG and citations re Portal fulfill WP:CREATIVE. Gothamist and Kotaru are a large step above mere blogs. Substantial editorial staffs. Article can be improved a lot.--Nixie9 (talk) 04:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.