Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jayatu Sanskritam movement


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Michig (talk) 07:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Jayatu Sanskritam movement

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Uncited and confusing. I don't know how this article has lasted for over three years. Earwig's Copyvio Detector can't even pull any pages to look for a copyvio from. startTerminal {haha wow talk page | waste_of_space#4023 on discord} 03:32, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to Revolution of 1951: It's at least noteworthy, but it doesn't look like there's enough out there to justify a full article on the movement. No merge ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 10:08, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Did you search Google Books? There are plenty of sources, and many more if you search for "Jayatu Sanskritam". There is plenty of material to improve and adequately reference the article. The redirect to Revolution of 1951 is tempting, but it seems it could easily become WP:UNDUE in that article, and Jayatu Sanskritam extends before and beyond the 1951 revolution. You will also find mentions and sections for Jayatu Sanskritam in several other WP articles. If the article survives AfD, I will move it to Jayatu Sanskritam. Jack N. Stock (talk) 22:48, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, assuming this article is kept, this is a suitable redirection target for Ram Prasad Neupane following the move. Jack N. Stock (talk) 23:27, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Google books has several lists of the movement jayatu Sanskritam. Rather Jayatu Sanskritam movement - Jayatu Sanskritam would fulfill the purpose. Shashank Shree Neupane11:33, 03, December 2018 ( UTC+5:45) —Preceding undated comment added 05:51, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Followup I edited the para at Revolution of 1951, and the only significant coverage I could find (Google, GBooks, Scholar) for "Jayatu Sanskrit[am]" was ~1 page in Snellinger (2018). The other (English language) coverage of the movement I could see was very light. Including more detail while avoiding close paraphrasing of Snellinger is a little tricky without accessing (presumed) Nepali and offline sources. Do you have reliable sources accessible other than Snellinger with which you can flesh the article out significantly? Am happy for it to be kept as an article if it is going to be more than a stub, but if it's only going to be a para or two then I see redirect with the possibility of later SPINOUT as better.  ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 13:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Re other mentions, it's unclear whether there's any direct relation between the Belgian organisation and this one. JS may have been a predecessor/inspiration of the Nepal Student Union, but according to the article that organisation started in 1970, some two decades later. And, as suggested, Ram Prasad Neupane should redirect with what's there. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 13:21, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem with redirecting to Revolution of 1951 is that the Jayatu Sanskritam uprising occurred in 1947, four years before the 1951 revolution, so was an entirely separate event. Assuming it's correct that forty-two participants were exiled and others were imprisoned, it seems to be a significant and notable event in the history of Nepal. I will search later to see if I can add anything, but I don't understand local languages so we may need help from others, such as the other editors who have contributed to this and associated articles. It looks interesting, though, so I'd like to know more. Jack N. Stock (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Someone with access to a major library could help, as many sources in English are not available online (only tantalizing snippets). Jack N. Stock (talk) 05:46, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The 1947 uprising provides background/context in the 1951 revolution article, and a quarter of the Snellinger text also deals with them in that context. Snellinger appears to only use 1 reference for the JS (Ojha 2012). Ultimately there are likely to be sufficient sources somewhere for a fuller article sometime -- the question is should it be later (in which case redirect with Template:R with possibilities should be used and WP:NOPAGE and WP:SPINOUT apply) or immediately. Won't be unhappy if (or likely when) the verdict happens to be a keep, but without demonstrated expansion, am still landing at redirect as better for the while. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 01:07, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:59, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep enough sources which shows the article is notable.Azkord (talk) 04:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)


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