Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaybahadur Hitan Magar (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Jaybahadur Hitan Magar
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Per WP:GNG. Frankly, this article should qualify as a hoax. The article is written like a hero's journey and portrays the subject at the center of Nepal's history while in fact, he was one of the hundreds of thousands of party cadres of major political parties. The article is a story of how the subject felt about what was happening in Nepal while it was happening. This is a second nomination. The contributors to first nom seem utterly confused. It appears not many actually bothered to read the article closely because it is so long. The article under close inspection, doesn't even establish the notability of the subject. In addition, the article isn't sourced. There is no trace of the subject in secondary sources, except in wikipedia mirror sites. In the talk page of the article, the son of the subject confesses that he used meat-puppets to create this article, a verbatim translation of a biography on his father, that he wrote himself, but assures us it's not copyright violation because he owns the content and he's freely uploaded it here to wikipedia. The only source to this article is said biography. I couldn't find any secondary sources at all. This is a simple case of the subjects relatives, friends and colleagues promoting him. Usedtobecool TALK  12:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete. The only cited reference is a book written and published by his own son, which is not an independent source for the purposes of establishing his notability — and in my 15+ years of contributing to Wikipedia, this is a definite candidate for the longest article I've ever seen with so little referencing to actually support any of it. And, indeed, it's written in a very hagiographized way that very likely includes some original research ("When not out on political business or other official work, Hitan liked to lead a simple lifestyle: rising early, drinking much tea, and meeting up with friends to drink more tea."), making it extremely unsurprising that there was a confessed conflict of interest. The first nomination did not end as a keep because there was any consensus that his notability had been properly established or referenced, but rather it was kept solely because it was nominated as "probably a copyright violation" (which is generally weak grounds for an AFD discussion in and of itself, because copyright problems can be easily fixed with rewrites) while not actually taking notability or sourcing issues into account at all. So no prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can write a more neutral and encyclopedic version than this, and reference it to much more reliable source coverage than just one book published by his own son and self-cited by him in his capacity as the article's author — but nothing here is properly written or properly sourced for the purposes of establishing that he's genuinely notable enough. Bearcat (talk) 15:34, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Per the nom. Fails WP:GNG and is arguably a WP:HOAX. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Nom and BEarcat. fails WP:AUTHOR.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


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