Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jazz (Transformers)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 16:47, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Jazz (Transformers)

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Fictional character which fails WP:GNG - no significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Blest Withouten Match (talk) 19:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC) Definite keep but get rid of the fancruft, fansites and better sourcing. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per my same logic from the Bumblebee AFD. BOZ (talk) 20:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Proof the Transformers Deletionist Patrol doesn't even read the articles before nominating them! Mathewignash (talk) 21:11, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * CommentI agree this article shouldn't have been nominated in the first place. My beef with inclusionist is they seen to write acres of miscellaneous information. But when someone ask the for evidence to support their statements its either so peripheral or poorly sourced fansites as you yourself well know!!Dwanyewest (talk) 21:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Yeah, this one's notable. Still a horrible mess of fancruft and non-free image overuse, though. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and that goes for all Transformers related articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Ok, so this one's definitely notable, according to those who have commented- perhaps some effort could be made towards cleaning this up. Cut out the massive plot summaries, cut out the trivial lists, cut out the slew of infoboxes, cut out unwarranted non-free content and cut out unreliable sources. Add some reliable sources, add some real-world context, expand the lead, consolidate the plot information. It'd be great if we could get something very positive out of the attempts to cleanup our coverage of Transformers- if the character's definitely notable, perhaps we could push for a GA? J Milburn (talk) 21:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - Many citations in the article confer real-world notability. Hell, Scatman Crothers voiced this guy back in the day. Tarc (talk) 22:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * CommentMany of the "sources" are of dubious quality see: "Reliable sources for Transformers" Dwanyewest (talk) 22:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete or Redirect All of the stuff only extend within the franchise. Many of these source fail as reliable as they are mostly fansites and messages boards. Which a lot of these articles are plagued with. Also, a well known deceased actor portraying him at one point is not notability. All information on Jazz incarnation should be moved to more relevant character lists. Sarujo (talk) 00:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep but apply serious decrufting. --John (talk) 01:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * NOTE The nominator has been blocked as a sockpuppet of Claritas. Mathewignash (talk) 09:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Procedural keep as a sockpuppet nomination by . No prejudices against renomination after a week to give time for the other butt-load of Transformers AfDs to worth themselves through, which may give guidance on what to do with this article. —Farix (t &#124; c) 23:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.