Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean-Noël Gobron


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 20:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Jean-Noël Gobron

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Not clear how this person meets WP:CREATIVE? The "references" in the bibliography section are primary (point to the websites of the subject, Alcyonfilm.com). no third-party, substantial sources that indicate why he is notable. Spatulli (talk) 19:12, 9 September 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. No reliable source citations other than user-generated Imdb content. EnabledDanger (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Weak keep I think it is possible to compile an informative article about this filmmaker. I found several reviews of his works:, , , , unfortunately I can't speak French or Dutch. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This is an argument to avoid, see WP:INTHENEWS, WP:ITEXISTS, WP:SOURCESEARCH, etc. finding sources for the name of the person doesn't mean he meets WP:CREATIVE. That's what happens to be my deletion rationale. Spatulli (talk) 11:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * All I'm trying to do here is providing possible sources/evidence for consideration of others. In this particular case I think there is a chance to enrich this project with a piece of verifiable information on a filmmaker. I admit, my editing skills for translating French and Dutch sources are limited, and G-translator is weak. It is just my opinion. Should I avoid doing that? Btw, WP:CREATIVE, #3 says: the person has been the subject of ... multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it says the person must have been the subject of the article, which is not really the case here: (it's an article that reviews his film, without giving a clear assertion of its significance; for example, no awards are mentioned) . and  merely mention him in passing while the two latter ones are about some film of his, without mentioning how significant this work is.  Neither of them are specifically about him. Spatulli (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete While the online review of his films about his parents indicates some 3rd party attention, that is hardly enough. And if notable in Europe, one would expect to be able to look to articles in other Wikipedias. But he has no biography in the French, Dutch or German Wikis. The nearest is a mention as a distributor of a particular film: . It may have been worth informing the creator of the article to seek references demonstrating notability, though her account activity seems to be limited to the 9 days during which this article was developed. AllyD (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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