Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean Dubé (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. While the consensus here clearly is to "keep" the article, I must admit that if somebody had tagged this for speedy deletion for being too promotional, I would have deleted this without giving it a second thought. Those arguing for "keep" are invited to do a thorough rewrite of this article to remove the promotional tone. Randykitty (talk) 15:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Jean Dubé (musician)

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BLP without any actual references Rathfelder (talk) 18:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. This is very heavily advertorialized, and cites no reliable sources to actually support the content. And while the International Franz Liszt Piano Competition would probably be enough to pass WP:NMUSIC #9 ("major music competition") if the article were written and sourced properly, it isn't so highly meganotable that the need to keep articles about its winners would override the need to write and source their articles properly. And I'm also willing to reconsider if somebody with access to different databases than I've got can find much better sources to repair it with than I've been able to (e.g. media from the Netherlands, given that the notability claim is a Dutch music competition?) — but I haven't been able to find any useful new references with the tools available to me, and even the interlanged versions in French and Russian and Arabic aren't citing any useful sources either. Bearcat (talk) 03:47, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Winner of a major international piano competition. Clearly passes WP:NMUSIC #9 and WP:ANYBIO. Article needs improvements through editing. WP:AFD is not cleanup.4meter4 (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Neither NMUSIC nor ANYBIO is passed without showing that the award in question is one that gets covered by the media. Bearcat (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep – referenced in The Musical Times alongside Renée Fleming, Nikolaus Harnoncourt and other luminaries (MT Summer 2002, p. 2. (Ilona Timchenko, who has an article, is mentioned as runner-up to Dubé).  Tim riley  talk   20:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. I found multiple independent reviews of his recordings and/or concerts; enough to pass WP:SIGCOV and WP:MUSICBIO in EBSCO and PROQUEST (sorry for no urls; accessed through my university library. See below.4meter4 (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep (mostly per Tim riley) but rewrite with in less promotional tone. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Appears to meet the notability criteria, but article needs to be rewritten to make it less promotional and more encyclopedic PhantomSteve/ talk ¦ contribs \ 13:56, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.