Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jean Hodgkins and Vera Skubic


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The result was   speedy delete WP:CSD by  per request of article creator  with the comment "accept reason and move focus to the house". The house is Hodgkins and Skubic House. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:07, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Jean Hodgkins and Vera Skubic

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Not clear why these two women are supposed to be notable. The sources arenot independent (university sources) or not reliable (localwiki.org?), and I couldn't easily find better sources either. Reading the article also doesn't make me any wiser: the houses make the architect notable, not the owners; their university career and publications were not really reamrkable either. They had some impact on their university, but as long as that impact is not recognised and significantly reported in reliable, independent sources, we shouldn't have an article on them. Fram (talk) 09:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment. They may be notable individually or not, but their bios should not be combined. If this is kept, it should be split. As for notability, I don't have time to look for more sources but : "Jean Hodgkins and Vera Skubic both played major roles in the development of women’s athletics and ability to participate in recreational activities on American campuses during the 1970s. Prior to their arrival, the words “female” and “athlete” were not mentioned in the same sentence." this suggests they are likely notable. Ping me if better sources are found.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:22, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Mark the trainDiscuss 10:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Second this comment that this should be split if kept. Though they did maintain ties, a joint article is a bit much... Note that both possibly have grounds for notability under WP:PROF - their work is cited. e.g. -   .Icewhiz (talk) 10:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * ? May be notable separately. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:14, 26 September 2017 (UTC).
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