Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeanmarie Simpson


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The result was   keep.  Sandstein  20:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Jeanmarie Simpson

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Subject does not pass the notability standards for actors or activists. At first glance the article has plenty of sources, but they are mostly blogs and websites. The one movie has not been released, and activism lacks secondary coverage by reliable sources Sea photo Talk  17:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep? - Her website seems to establish loads of notability. Dr. Joan Hoff, the Professor of History at Montana State University (who is most likely a notable person) said of her, "It is fitting that we honor Jeannette Rankin (1880-1973) today because she remains one of the most controversial and unique women in Montana and American political history. As the first woman ever elected to a legislative body in a western democracy; namely, the House of Representatives, and the only member of Congress to oppose U.S. entrance into both World Wars, Jeannette Rankin’s commitment to the cause of peace and equality grew steadily throughout her long life.", and she wrote an article called Why the West Leads the East in the Recognition of Women, in which she said (according to the site) "...that Montana in particular, and the West in general, created a unique physical environment-one we now associate with frontier or pioneer life- that had a profound impact on both women and men as they struggled to settle the land. Because they shared frontier burdens equally, Rankin thought that western men were likely to accept the idea of sexual equality and equal rights for women to a greater degree than their eastern counterparts." I don't know if someone's personal website is an establisher of notability, however. --Madison-chan (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Madison-chan
 * Comment - WP:SPS. Not a reliable source. Doesn't count. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 21:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

* Delete, I guess - The only sources I could find are this and this. Sad that this woman has no coverage in reliable sources, because she sounds like an amazing person. --Madison-chan (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)Madison-chan


 * Please, please, please delete! There are millions of working activists much more notable than I. Please note that your reference above, by Dr. Joan Hoff (a wonderful woman whom I know) is about Jeannette Rankin, the subject of my play A Single Woman. Probably the play and the film of the same name should also be deleted. Too much acrimony is stirring and it serves neither me nor the peace movement, and it certainly doesn't further the message of universal compassion and understanding.Jeanmariesimpson (talk) 22:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay, we'll delete the article for you. --Madison-chan (talk) 23:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * KEEP! She is featured in many publications including newspapers, national magazines and PBS affiliates including this one. This is another reliable source. There are many, many more, but I don't have time right now to work on this. Please don't delete! Josiewarvelle (talk) 22:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's one RS with significant coverage, with the other being an incidental mention. Anything else? Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 01:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Links as News Review, Huffington Post, Tucson Sentinel, Media Roots, Goliath Business News (Peace and Freedom), are sufficent enough to estabilish a claim of notability.--Cavarrone (talk) 11:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Here are more RS links: Sacramento News and Review #1 #2 #3 and Reno News and Review #1 #2 #3 There are many articles and reviews about her and her work in the Reno Gazette Journal Archives, however they have only pay-per-view options after a week of publication.Webberkenny (talk) 22:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - her one-woman play seems to have received a lot of coverage in the Reno and Sacramento areas, as indicated by most of these links. Perhaps her biography could be appended to an article on that work if that is the basis of notability.  I am still not seeing notability that meet the guidelines for notability guidelines for actors, which is the strongest case; the arguments for general notability on the basis of her activism are weaker.  Please remember this is not a referendum or value judgement on the subject of the article, just an evaluation of the article itself and it's merits for inclusion on Wikipedia.   Sea photo Talk  03:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment A Single Woman was not a one-woman play. It was a two-actor piece that played in venues all over the country, and there are articles to support that from newspapers in numerous regions. Additionally, her solo show, "Coming In Hot," received much notice in Tucson and also played in Hollywood, Seattle, Reno, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. There are articles to back that up as well. What is, in my opinion, significant, is that her theatre itself, since 9/11, is activism. I don't think she belongs in the notability guidelines for actors category. She is now "in progress" with a new work, as is reflected in the article, and it is, again, a work that confronts a pattern of societal ills. She is already gaining attention with that piece (you'll note that the Media Roots interview focused on that project). Maybe a new category needs creating? Anna Deavere Smith and others would fall into a category of theatre activism or art activism? That might actually be the one, because there are musicians, visual artists, dancers, poets, etc., all creating work in that vein.Webberkenny (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. Here is a recent contribution by Simpson in a reputable online women's magazine. Seems to support your idea of a new category.Josiewarvelle (talk) 19:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's more, with an audio from 2005, too. This is actually very interesting, and there is a ton of stuff out there about her theatre-as-activism approach.Josiewarvelle (talk) 20:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Changing vote to keep - per sources found by Josie and Webber. --Madison-chan (talk) 22:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I thought the choice had been made to keep the article. I guess I misread the tag, because I deleted it and User:Seaphoto put it back up again. I want to start a new category maybe Artist Activists? Or Activist Artists? But I've read the guidelines about new categories, and I'm confused about how to proceed.Webberkenny (talk) 05:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm confused too, and can't quite figure out how to create a new category. Josiewarvelle (talk) 19:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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