Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jecheon AIDS scandal


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The result was delete. North America1000 11:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Jecheon AIDS scandal

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Before it was stubified, this page was an unsourced attack page on the person the article author alleged (without eviidence) was the source of AIDS infections plus other embarrasing claims about his sexual habits. What remains says there were a lot of AIDS infections in a town in Korea. That is neither a scandal nor notable. I doubt we want to keep this, but if we do the entire history needs revision deletion as a WP:BLP violation. SpinningSpark 09:30, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:32, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Events.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:27, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, much of the supposed unsourced BLP violations were supported by the news reports listed in the article as external links for the previous 8 years, which a poor editor in 2020 entirely failed to make apparent in any way were then being turned into sources. However, and ironically, the text that has not been blanked for being a BLP violation, the assertion that "hundreds of people" have become infected, is in fact the main thing that is not supported by the news reports, which reported that at the time of the police investigation no further infections had been diagnosed.  The verifiable material is, ironically, the stuff about the one person, and not even the later news reports cited in the Japanese Wikipedia's article (ja:堤川AIDS事件) say that there turned out to be any other people. The German Wikipedia has deleted both de:Jecheon AIDS-Verbrechen and de:Jechoeon AIDS Scandal, the Portuguese Wikipedia has deleted pt:Jecheon AIDS Escândalo, the Korean Wikipedia has deleted ko:제천 에이즈 사건, and even the Japanese Wikipedia doesn't say any more than that 1 person was sentenced for a crime.  I suspect that the Japanese Wikipedia only still has this because no-one has really paid attention to the article since it was written there in 2012.  It has been 11 years for this article.  It's time that we stopped falsely claiming that 1 person committing a crime and no-one else turning out to have been involved or infected is a city-wide "scandal".  We've already deleted Jindo AIDS scandal and Black Teacher Scandal which were similarly rubbish, written by some of the same editors.  Per those, the other Wikipedias, and our various policies against manufacturing "scandals" in Wikipedia, delete.  Uncle G (talk) 11:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I did a machine translate on some of the ELs before nominating. Although there was indeed news stories about this persons activities and arrest, our article was off the scale with claims about this person stated as fact that even the Korean gutter press were somewhat more circumspect about. SpinningSpark 12:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Not the case, alas. I looked at all of them, including the ones that were edited out of the article years ago.  The press was right there alongside the article content, even publishing photographs of the person concerned inside a police station.  They don't support the existence of any scandal or even the claim of anybody at all being infected, but they did actually say things about the person.  That's the irony here.  The only things that are taken from sources are the sort of things that are insufficient for having a biography, and the things that aren't supported by sources are the non-biographical things left in and the supposed central subject of the article, which apparently never existed.  Uncle G (talk) 16:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza<b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d  c̄ ) 12:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Unremarkable incident that is grossly exaggerated; WP:109PAPERS applies because there was no lasting coverage. Also a serious BLP violation because the article misrepresents the spread of AIDS. –<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 12:19, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


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