Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jedi Order


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete + redirect to Jedi. Ian ¹³ /t  17:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Order
Non-notable group of gamers. cholmes75 (chit chat) 15:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jedi, speedily if possible per nom --Pak21 15:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete redirect the title to Jedi. NegroSuave 15:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above.--Fuhghettaboutit 15:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - If I read the article history correctly, it was redirected once already. Perhaps a redirect and protect (if that is done) may be in order.  --cholmes75 (chit chat) 15:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: you do read the history correctly. There has recently been a group of vandals spamming both this page and Rome: Total War (for which "Jedi Order" is a clan) to get themselves mentioned. --Pak21 15:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect - I'd speedily close it myself as a redirect, but an admin needs to Protect it. It's been recreated many times. - Hahnch  e  n 15:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: given all the problems seem to be from anon IPs, I'd suggest semi-protection instead. Cheers --Pak21 16:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect, speedy if possible - It's been redirected to Jedi repeatedly, and one particular IP has been changing it. dcandeto 17:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment What I mean above is that it's supposed to redirect to Jedi, and that one IP has been changing the redirect against consensus and the talk page. dcandeto 17:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete + Protect a clan with 15 members and no official website obviously isn't notable. This article SHOULDN'T be redirected as voted above as the clan plays games which are in no way related to Jedi (see article).-- Andeh 17:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: the redirect pre-existed the clan's involvement with it; there are many Jedi-related links that redirect through it. (I am abstaining due to prior involvement with this situation) --DarthBinky 17:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Jedi Order" is a well known term within the Star Wars universe; that's the reason for the redirect, not because this clan play any games related to the Jedi. Cheers --Pak21 08:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect or delete per above. &mdash; Deckill e r 18:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete + Protect The clan isn't nearly as notable as the Star Wars organization of the same name. EVula 19:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy redirect and protect, it seems the clan has hijacked this redirect. Very, very few gaming clans are notable. --Coredesat talk 21:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete send it to the dark-side. Artw 22:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete to destroy the history, recreate as a redirect to Jedi, and semiprotect to prevent further changes. --ais523 12:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - I like that idea. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 13:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment why semi-protect? Is there any reason for Jedi Order to redirect anywhere other than Jedi? If so, make it semi-protected, but if there isn't, then there's nothing to stop one of the clan members from registering and doing all this again (I realize I'm opting for reality over good faith, I know, but I think its a valid concern). That said, I'm in favor of destroying the history. EVula 14:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: The most obvious possibility I see is that Jedi gets big and split into two pages. As for why semi-protection, Protected pages considered harmful; semi-protection is less bad than full protection. Also, semi-protection will give us a four-day (or whatever the lag time is), and logged in accounts can be blocked much more readily than anon IPs, especially as some of the clan members involved in this little stunt were on AOL IPs. Cheers --Pak21 14:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree delete the page as an administrator, and block it, they deserve to be blocked but they are notable - go to Jedi-Order.blogspot.com. They apparently do have a website... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mechanismtongs (talk • contribs).
 * Comment: this user's contributions to Wikipedia have been almost entirely spamming for the clan or vandalism. --Pak21 16:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * i belive this page should be allowed to continue as it is mearly giving information that is true and is not biased it does not encourage people to go on the web site it mearly says they have one and where it is this page should be allowed to continue with what it is doing and should not become a redirect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.39 (talk • contribs).


 * pak with your fiasco on the presidental elections page you cannot talk. please stay away from my talk zone as u are saying racial comments about me because i am from china —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mechanismtongs (talk • contribs).


 * Please look at article 31 of the EU's Human rights section. I shall accept a full apology in due course —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mechanismtongs (talk • contribs).


 * "Article 31 – Powers of the Grand Chamber


 * The Grand Chamber shall:


 * determine applications submitted either under Article 33 or Article 34 when a Chamber has relinquished jurisdiction under Article 30 or when the case has been referred to it under Article 43; and
 * consider requests for advisory opinions submitted under Article 47."


 * I fail to see how this is relevant here. --Pak21 16:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

it has its moments and shows the problems of wikipedia

pak please do not speak 2 me or i will destroy the world in 2 minutes with an atomic weapon hidden in north korea. believe me the consequences will damage wikipedia 4 life


 * Comment: there is now also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jedi Order: Online Gameing Clan which I see no reason not to merge with this nomination (unless it gets speedy deleted first). --Pak21 17:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.