Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Bennett


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. JForget 03:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Jeff Bennett

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This article has existed as an unreferenced BLP since December 2004 (5 years!) and has never established the notability of the subject. Sources are included in the "External links" section of the article but they are contradictory. The link to allmovie.com establishes that the individual has been professionally active since 1988 while the link to IMDB only establishes activity back to 1994. There was a citation included in the article that identified a "Jeff Glenn Bennett" as having been born in Texas on October 2, 1962 but this did not prove that the person was the same Jeff Bennett who is the subject of the article. While he was born on the same day, according to IMDB, his IMDB profile asserts his birthplace to be California. The article does include an extensive filmography for this individual, based apparently on the IMDB and allmovie links, but having a lot of jobs does not establish notability. While a Google search finds a lot of entries for Jeff Bennetts, the entries are for many different Jeff Bennetts. There is virtually nothing about this individual mentioned anywhere other than at the two external links. There is certainly not the "significant coverage" required by the general notability guideline. AussieLegend (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify a point from above, my thinking is that if you haven't been able to establish clear notability in five long years, then perhaps the subject isn't as notable as some might think. --AussieLegend (talk) 03:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Info on cartoons can be really hard to find unless they get insanely popular. This verifies a few Disney roles, and he has had at least one title-character role (namely Johnny Bravo), and voiced primary characters in Gargoyles and Penguins of Madagascar among others. I have a hard time believing that a voice actor with a résumé as prolific as his would turn up no sources, but the fact that there are so many other Jeff Bennetts makes it extremely hard to find anything. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 00:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I certainly see your point but at the moment I can find more information from more reliable sources about me on the net than I can about him and I've never been in a cartoon. --AussieLegend (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep: Let this page stay. Jeff Bennett is a great actor. It's pointless to do an unnecessary deletion on his page. Rtkat3 (talk) 8:22, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How do we get around the notability issue and lack of referencing? --AussieLegend (talk) 01:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


 * On the notability issue: the notability guideline for entertainers specifies that an actor may be considered notable if he "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." This is certainly true of Jeff Bennett; it's just a question of finding a source more reliable than IMDb to back it up. —Paul A (talk) 02:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I can find lots of potential sources, but from what I see, most are blogs, Rotten Tomatoes, or fannish pages. That being said, I think he's notable based on WP:ENTERTAINER. I added soucres. Bearian (talk) 21:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and Improve - Jeff Bennett is well known voice over artist and has voiced may famous cartoon characters. I suggest KEEP and Improve. 202.177.148.100 (talk) 05:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's been kept for the past five years and still hasn't been improved. Why should there be any reason to expect it will be improved if the result of this AfD is keep? --AussieLegend (talk) 06:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This question isn't relevant to the AfD, though. We simply don't delete articles just because they're not sourced - please read WP:NOEFFORT to learn more about wikipedia's deletion policies. You can remove unsourced content, source it, etc, but you don't just delete the article. ErikHaugen (talk) 01:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The vote I responded to was "Keep and improve", so the question about improvement is very relevant to the AfD since improvement is an element of the vote. As for deleting unsourced content, that's essentially deleting most of the article to the point where what's left is not worth keeping, hence the AfD. WP:NOEFFORT is not relevant. The issue is not that the article is being worked on, because it is. The point is that the article is essentially unsourced. It fails WP:V. Even the most basic information about the subject is unverifiable. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:12, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: Bennett provides the voice of a major character on a consistently highly rated animated television show, “The Penguins of Madagascar.” Though it would be nice if there were more of them out there, a few reliable sources for Jeff Bennett information include: Rotten Tomatoes, Yahoo Movies, and TV Guide. Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 08:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: See WP:ENT - this is, quite frankly, a no-brainer. He's Johnny Bravo, Kowalski from Penguins, etc. Let me find my trout... or maybe my wp:snowball? ErikHaugen (talk) 01:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * With reliable sources it might be a no brainer but there just don't seem to be any for the most basic information in the article. We've already had a situation where somebody has found a source for his birthdate but it was a for a Jeff Glen Bennett in Texas, while the only source that actually states the birthplace for the Jeff Bennett who has all these roles (IMDB) says he was born in California. I've tried, unsuccessfully, to find a reliable source that states when his career started but all of the dates I find are contradictory, as I stated in the nomination. So far, I've seen "1984-present" and "1991-present" in the article while actual sources (poor sources unfortunately) state 1988 and 1994. In recent days the 1994 date has come into question. When I first nominated this article, the IMDB entry included a filmography dating back to 1994 but, in the past few days, the entry has been expanded to include roles back to 1988. When the "years active" dates vary so much one has to ask, are people looking at the same Jeff Bennett? Well, we wouldn't know because, as I look at this article, I find myself wondering what ever happened to Verifiability. People seem happy to assume that all of the information in the article is correct when almost all of it badly fails WP:V which states, quite clearly in the first paragraph, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth&mdash;what counts is whether readers can verify that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source (see below), not whether editors think it is true." We can't verify the most basic information about the subject and without that we can't verify that all of the roles listed are the same person. The no brainer here seems to be to apply WP:V and delete the article. --AussieLegend (talk) 05:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.