Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Bezanson


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The result was redirect to Julia (programming language). Undo incorrect nac. Clearly the consensus is not to have this article. Spartaz Humbug! 06:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Jeff Bezanson

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Co-creator of the Julia programming language co-founder of subsequent 2015 startup based on the language. Sources in the article either don't mention him, mention him in a single line (as part of the founder list), are self authored - with the exception of wired which is an interview with some coverage (where Bezanson is mentioned in 4 paragraphs, some of which are quotes). BEFORE doesn't yield much more in news coverage (32 true hits in gNews - in most he is mentioned as a name in a founder list + this in waterstechnology where he is mentioned in a list a few times (as well as Shah just laughs and says there's no great story there: A friend of Bezanson suggested the name and the group fell in love with it and ran with it. - not sure of RSness, but it is also fairly scant on Bezanson). In terms of meeting PROF, multiple authors from the Julia team, are named on two well cited papers - google scholar - "Bezanson, Jeff, et al. "Julia: A fast dynamic language for technical computing." arXiv preprint arXiv:1209.5145 (2012)." has 291 citations per scholar and "Bezanson, Jeff, et al. "Julia: A fresh approach to numerical computing." SIAM Review 59.1 (2017): 65-98."(published in 2015 on arxiv) - has 329 (few papers other than this. He is mentioned in some papers as a Julia co-creator (in a list)). These two papers would not be enough for PROF, and coverage of Bezanson does not rise to GNG. I'm not nominating at this time other Julia co-founders - Alan Edelman (MIT professor) is clearly notable. The other two are more borderline Viral B. Shah has some coverage in Indian media, and Stefan Karpinski has some coverage in relation to the subway challenge. Icewhiz (talk) 08:30, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete passing references do not establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:47, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Bezanson is the brains behind Julia and is worthy of an article for that reason alone.   Viral B. Shah is more charismatic and self-promotional, yet much less critical to the creation of Julia; I won't fight deleting Shah's article. Just because Bezanson doesn't go promote himself doesn't mean he's not worthy of an article.  Sanpitch (talk) 04:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Mentions of Jeff Bezanson's contributions to Julia and founding of Julia Computing have been covered by various media outlets:
 * 1) Wired - https://www.wired.com/2014/02/julia/
 * 2) Forbes - https://www.forbes.com/sites/suparnadutt/2017/09/20/this-startup-created-a-new-programming-language-now-used-by-the-worlds-biggest-companies/#4b07f2aa7de2
 * 3) Ars Technica - https://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/scientific-computings-future-can-any-coding-language-top-a-1950s-behemoth/3/
 * 4) VentureBeat - https://venturebeat.com/2015/05/18/why-the-creators-of-the-julia-programming-language-just-launched-a-startup/
 * 5) Economic Times - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/startups/why-amazon-disney-and-uber-are-courting-this-two-year-old-startup-julia-computing-viral-shah/articleshow/60169227.cms
 * 6) Economic Times - https://tech.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/startups/julia-founders-commercialise-language-create-new-startup/47212849
 * 7) Waters Technology - https://www.waterstechnology.com/industry-issues-initiatives/2476518/the-infancy-of-julia-an-inside-look-at-how-traders-and-economists-are-using-the-julia-programming-language

Apart from the papers cited above, Jeff Bezanson has various other talks and presentations at prestigious conferences (acceptance by peer review), which should count for significant online coverage, and much more than a passing reference, in my opinion:
 * 1) PLISS 2017 - https://pliss2017.github.io/talks.html#JeffB
 * 2) Curry On! 2015 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZTqMSM2ksY
 * 3) Reflections|Projections 2014 - https://www-s.acm.illinois.edu/conference/2014/speakers/jeffbezanson.html
 * 4) SPLASH-I 2013 - https://conf.researchr.org/track/splash-2013/splash-2013-SPLASH-I#Program
 * 5) Lang.NEXT 2012 - https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Lang-NEXT/Lang-NEXT-2012/Julia
 * 6) Strata NY 2012 - https://conferences.oreilly.com/strata/stratany2012/public/schedule/speaker/138943
 * 7) ACM SIGPLAN Array '14 - https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2627373.2627383
 * 8) PyData NCY '17 - https://pydata.org/nyc2017/schedule/presentation/86/
 * 9) JuliaCon '17 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LtJUe1q8c
 * 10) JuliaCon '15 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUP3cSKb8sI

Podcasts with Jeff Bezanson (the first one is only with him, while the second one is with other Julia co-creators): ViralBShah (talk)
 * 1) Software Engineering Daily Podcast interview with Jeff Bezanson - https://softwareengineeringdaily.com/2016/11/08/julia-language-with-jeff-bezanson/
 * 2) RCE 107 Podcast with all Julia creators- http://www.rce-cast.com/Podcast/rce-107-julia.html
 * per this diff, shouldn't you state something in your !vote?
 * Regarding the sources you provided above were addressed in the nomination - the Wired interview (~4 paragraphs in an interview with him) as well as the waterstechnology piece (where he is mentioned a few times, mainly in list form, and So why the name, Julia? Is it named after a famous scientist? A wife or ex-girlfriend? Perhaps they're huge Julia Roberts fans? Shah just laughs and says there's no great story there: A friend of Bezanson suggested the name and the group fell in love with it and ran with it.. The rest of the media sources merely mention him in a list of founders. Speaking engagements, on Julia, in conferences do not confer notability, nor do interviews in podcasts.Icewhiz (talk) 09:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did see that you noted the articles above, but I just thought I would provide a complete list of talks and articles. Even while some of the mentions are in passing, many of those articles are written based on collective interview (a clear example - the ArsTechnica one). Ultimately, I do not understand the the nuances of Wikipedia rules. I just wanted to make my case that as a creator of the increasingly popular Julia language, Jeff's wikipedia page should stay. I'm not sure what your question is in relation to the diff of my own Wikipedia page. ViralBShah (talk) 14:38, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

As an FYI, version 1.0 of Julia will be released soon (at least by June, probably earlier), after which I expect quite a few articles that will cite Bezanson. Even so, my guess is that Karpinski and Shah will continue to be more vocal and visible. Sanpitch (talk) 18:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Final relist.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Julia (programming language). Wikipedia usually encourages people known for one notable thing to be added to that article.  I'm not seeing independent coverage of him such as biographical info that would suggest he's independently notable. Since the company is just getting started, it does not have its own article yet, and this could just be WP:TOOSOON. A redirect allows the info to be salvaged in the future if appropriate. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  02:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


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