Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Horowitz (2nd nomination)


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The result was   merge to Avoided Deforestation Partners. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 03:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Jeff Horowitz
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Procedural nomination. This article was tagged a G4 speedy (repost of previously deleted material), however, this incarnation uses this source, which mentions Horowitz in a non-trivial manner and did not exist at the time of the previous AfD.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 02:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Avoided Deforestation Partners - subject is only quoted briefly in the CNBC article, but not mentioned in the other cites given. No significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources, and no indication of notability per WP:BIO.  I cut out a lot of the highly WP:PROMO tone used in the original version, but I don't see sufficient notability for a separate article. Empty Buffer (talk) 07:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This article appears to have been flagged because someone tried to create it before, not because of the actual content which seems notable. Additional reliable, sources have been added specifically referencing Mr. Horowitz. He is the founder of a key organization in the environmental policy debate and has become a significant and political force in the fight over climate change legislation. The sources cited, New York Times, CNBC, Reuters, Huffington Post all indicate Mr. Horowitz prominent and notable role in a major policy debate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Actioneditor (talk • contribs) 15:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is currently no citation in the article from the New York Times or Reuters, and the CNBC post only mentions him in passing as noted above. can you find any profiles of him, or coverage specifically about him, rather than about the organization for which he works?  Being associated with or founding a notable organization doesn't automatically confer notability, as discussed in WP:BIO. Thanks, Empty Buffer (talk) 07:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Here are direct citations profiling Mr. Horowitz and describing his role in the climate debate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.234.130 (talk) 13:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The citation from the Prairie Star cannot be used establish Horowitz's notability. The interview on the mongabay.com website sounds interesting, however a look at the site's about page shows a lot of puffery that is untypical of such pages, leaving the entire site's credibility in doubt. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 16:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The Praire Star is a legitimate, reputable publication covering Montana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Actioneditor (talk • contribs) 20:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No doubt about that, but the mention of Horowitz in it only qualifies as trivial. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 20:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is another reputable journalist with a full interview on Mr. Horowiz that establishes his significant role in climate legislation lobbying. Marc Gunther is a long time reporter with an xcellent track record. http://www.marcgunther.com/tag/jeff-horowitz/
 * If you feel you have to tell us who Marc Gunther is, then I don't think you yourself regard him as being that reliable for our purposes. It would help if you were to tell us what periodical publishes material from him on a regular basis, and link to his articles within these publications' websites. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Gunther is a long-time reporter and contributing editor at Fortune Magazine, Slate, and CNNMoney. Here is his bio . Here are a few links.  He is also the author of The House That Roone Built, which is the seminal book on the rise of ABCNews (see bio).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.70 (talk) 19:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see Businessweek and Politico.com articles specifically highlighting Horowitz's central role in the effort to protect rainforests. This is incontrovertible verifiable legitimate sourcing for this article establishing it as noteworthy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Actioneditor (talk • contribs) 16:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge - anything worth keeping to Avoided Deforestation Partners, new citation is only really a brief mention. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Smerge - I don't see that the refs provided establish standalone notability -- Whpq (talk) 16:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to Avoided Deforestation Partners. Lionel (talk) 05:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect Not enough sourcing for a stand alone bio. The Eskimo 15:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
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