Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Silverman (producer) (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:40, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Jeff Silverman (producer)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. I didn't see the previous version of this article before its deletion, so I don't know if this qualifies for speedy deletion under G4, but this version was recreated three days after deletion by an editor who discloses his COI on his user page that he is paid by Mr. Silverman's company for promotional purposes. The problems are the same as the first discussion: while Mr. Silverman has undoubtedly been involved with notable artists, there is almost nothing that demonstrates individual notability and is not WP:INHERITED. The "gold and platinum" claims are likely for the Rick Springfield albums of the early 1980s that Mr. Silverman played on and co-wrote the occasional song, but that's not equivalent to a certification award for Mr. Silverman himself. Likewise, the "Grammy nomination" claim is for a record he produced for his wife, but that was only for the first preliminary round of nominations – it didn't make the final list of nominees. The HMMA award was won by an artist he produced, not himself... it should also be noted that the HMMA awards are only given to artists who have to nominate their work for consideration in the first place, and are awarded by a committee that includes members of the Recording Academy, of which Mr. Silverman is a voting member, so there is a potential COI there. Everything else is the briefest of passing mentions in Billboard, links to Mr. Silverman's own websites, or non-RS sources such as iMDb. I cannot find any significant independent coverage of Mr. Silverman that warrants his own article. Richard3120 (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Pure PR. HMMA's are not a credible award. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - being a member of The Recording Academy is one step towards notability. I'd like to see more discussion. Bearian (talk) 17:14, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There doesn't appear to be any independent mention of Mr. Silverman's membership of the Recording Academy - it's taken from his own websites. Richard3120 (talk) 19:36, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Being a member is very run of the mill, just means he is a working producer who had put out some songs and has paid his membership. Whenever someone boasts of being such a member it is pure puff. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:41, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:08, 25 September 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg  jhp  jm  02:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete based on the discussion above. Bearian (talk) 18:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)


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