Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Unaegbu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, default to keep (in this case). NW ( Talk ) 03:13, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Jeff Unaegbu

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Seems to be entirely non-notable, self-promotional material (was created by User:Jeff Unaegbu). No reliable sources. Friginator (talk) 18:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 21:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete not at all notable Google C T J F 8 3  chat 23:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Finding sources for Nigerian artists is always problematical, and yes... the article is full of perhaps addressable fluff and COI. But it does seem the individual was written about in something called Newswatch: Nigeria's weekly magazine  Can anyone access or find others?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Jeff Unaegbu's books appear in the following sources:  The internet source seen by Schmidt is actually true. see Ajonye, A. (2007). One Page Book Review: Another Look at Lagos (Refers to the book, This Lagos na wa as “The longest poem written by a Nigerian”), Newswatch Magazine, April 2, P. 57.  There are also two other newspaper sources in which Jeff Unaegbu's books were reviewed: Ezendiokwele, S. (2005). “The Longest Metrical Poem in Africa!”, The Roar, Vol. 6, No. 1, P.8. Edukugho, E. (2008). “UNILAG emerges overall winner of research fair”, Vanguard, April 3, P.43.  There is an interview granted by Sunday Vanguard: Unaegbu, J. (2007). “I write to Put Right the Wrongs”, Sunday Vanguard, April 8, P. 48.  Maybe the wikipedia article on him may have to be pruned, but he is notable for his contributions to Nigeria with his eight books.Revolutionary Images (talk) 04:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I sure appreciate your digging where I was unable. Might you be prevailed upon to add those sources and maybe clean up the article a bit?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 11:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep He is also in Open Library with a short biography: [[User:Revolutionary Images|Revolutionary Images] (talk) 13:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone can edit that, therefore not reliable. C T J F 8 3  chat 17:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes... however, the other sources are far more convincing.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 *  Keep  The fluff in the article has been curtailed. Philosophy removed. Complete Newswatch magazine one-page review of his newsworthy first book appeared in April 2, 2007 edition in page 57 as already shown in my comment above. Completely available in hard copies in Nigeria newswatch archives. Call +2348055001912 Editor-in-Chief of Newswatch magazine, Dan Agbese, to confirm. Revolutionary Images (talk) 01:24, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * To User:Revolutionary Images, only one "keep" per customer.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep In adressing the problems inherent in sourcing articles on Nigerian notables, I can see that User:Revolutionary Images has made some good faith efforts to address concerns toward WP:CREATIVE. While the article format is still problematical, I believe that in addressing our unfortunate systemic bias, it looks like it can be addressed through regular editing.  Gonna be a pain, but with the provided sources, it looks do-able.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:48, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'd like to point out that User:Revolutionary Images (the account used to create this article) has recently been blocked as a sockpuppet created by User:Jeff Unaegbu. See here. Friginator (talk) 05:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see that you filed the SPI report, and that checkuser determined that User:Revolutionary Images was a puppet of User:Jeff Unaegbu. However, as this second account was created by an obviously inexperienced newcomer (article quality and format kinda speak volumes) the puppet does not appear to meet the definitions of WP:ILLEGIT, though the addressable COI is definitely of a concern.  Without evidence to the contrary, the second account could simply have perhaps stemmed from a total newb's misunderstanding of WP:SOCK, and there are processes for addressing THAT issue... but I do not expect that User:Jeff Unaegbu is even aware of them. Leaves us back to an article that appears to show notability, even if only in Nigeria.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:56, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Self-promotional material, non-notable person. See above. Friginator (talk) 05:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - article fails to demonstrate notability as defined in WP:GNG. Article fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:BLP. Article contains original research and unsourced material. The few sources in the article are unreliable and self-published sources. The article creator apparently is trying to use Wikipedia as a promotional platform. Amsaim (talk) 10:58, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q.. I agree that there is a huge amount of cleaning up to do, but this subject seems well worth the editorial effort required to bring the article up to snuff. Evalpor (talk) 18:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails by WP:GNG, WP:BIO, WP:BK, WP:SPAM, WP:AUTO, WP:SPA, WP:COI, etc. etc. etc.  Qworty (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Revolutionary Images. I easily found several of the sources he mentions.  CPerked (talk) 05:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I am very new here. But I think I am getting the hang of things already. Please can anyone help post to my talkpage the rules and regulations in wikipedia. I am confused and want to study them fully before I continue posting substantive edits. For I have very many notable people in my kitty and would like to share their histories in Wikipedia. Enjoy the direct evident sources of the "Filmography" section in the article, "Jeff Unaegbu".195.219.154.25 (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Judging from your Nigerian IP address and your identical contribution to the previous user, I'm guessing you're User:Jeff Unaegbu/Revolutionary Images. Wikipedia policy doesn't allow for one user to have two or more accounts. It also doesn't allow self-promotional material. Whether this article is self-promotional on your part (again, just assumptions here, don't take it personally), is part of why this discussion is taking place. And if you're going to edit the article, I'd just use a regular account. Though if you're just looking for an introduction to policy in general, I would go to the "Getting Started" page. Friginator (talk) 18:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Logan Talk Contributions 21:49, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Friginator, Amsaim and Qworty. Andrew vdBK  ( talk ) 17:09, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * weak Keep as probably notable, though it will take a great deal of editing. I will give it a try. (though I must admit another thing I considered was a G11 deletion as hopelessly promotional--but even an article like this can be fixed.) DGG ( talk ) 04:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Strong Keep I have closely researched for secondary sources for this subject and I discovered a full-length article about him and one of his works in Nigeria's Newswatch Magazine. A full-length copy of the review is posted at the base of this source: . I also saw an article on him in Nigerian wiki. See source:. This article seem enough to pass WP:CREATIVE WP:AUTHOR WP:BIO WP:GNG etc.Bjanie (talk) 16:12, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Three of the wikilinks you're citing are just different names for the same notability policy. Also, NigerianWiki and Wordpress are not a reliable sources, as they are user-generated. Friginator (talk) 17:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I have looked at the sources user Bjanie is pointing to. Friginator, you are right. They are user-generated sources. But let's look closely, the newspaper article upload at the bottom of one of the sites, specifically the one on wordpress, is very convincing. I have seen the Nigeria's Sunday Vanguard half-paged interview granted to Jeff Unaegbu in hard copy recently. Just now, I have tried to see if it is online, but I think it may not have been uploaded or if it has been uploaded is not accessible to non-subscribers. I will keep on looking. Will come back soon.Qwilliam (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q.. The subject is probably notable. I have examined his documentaries and the movies he took part in as availed by sources already cited. I agree that his presentation in this article is in such a way that it became an article for deletion because it then and still needs some editing and I am willing to take part with DGG and MichaelQSchmidt in doing so.Qwilliam (talk) 23:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.