Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jejak Utama: Breaking Conventions


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 19:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Jejak Utama: Breaking Conventions

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Seems well written, but content is unencyclopaedic and it features a non-notable school magazine. Almost no reference (the only ref in there is simply a link to wiki article of the school). I can't see how it can be improved to make it stay. — Yurei - egg  tart  05:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions.  -- Pcap  ping  09:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'm the primary author of the article and I would like to kindly recommend to Keep this page.An additional reference has been added. The primary creation of the page is to educate the Malaysian school community in general as well as the community of the particular school on the process that goes through the production of a school magazine. I intend for the article to be an integral, if not helpful inclusion in Wikipedia's ever expanding Malaysian school/education-related articles rather than one of a discursive manner. ChesC (talk) 19:32, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The additional reference you added is a mirror page of Wikipedia - in fact it's an older version of it with some obvious vandalism.
 * Comment Thank you for shedding light on the matter. Reference link has been deleted. Kindly refute the point below if you have any reasonable arguments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.135.113.14 (talk) 07:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. On the matter of the notability of the publication. The magazine will be distributed to several secondary schools and prominent higher learning institutions (private colleges that are recognized by the Malaysian Higher Learning Ministry) within the states of Selangor and Penang in Malaysia. I believe that the article will be an invaluable reference for the administration and also community of the other particular schools and colleges. Hope this will be kindly taken into consideration. Thank you. ChesC (talk) 19:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment When will that be? Which secondary schools? Which learning institutions? Was this in the news? If so, please provide the link. All these questions aside, I've took the liberty to Google jejak utama breaking conventions smk bandar utama -wikipedia, most, if not all, results obtained were unrelated to this magazine. If it had some notable news, there should've been something on the Internet. Uh, if it does get distributed somewhere as you say, I don't think it's of any importance anyway, unless there's a special reason (certain contents/uniqueness attracted media/renowned educational facilities? Published nationally/internationally? Won certain awards?). — Yurei - egg  tart  08:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Hi yurei-eggtart, thanks for your insight. As 'The Star' newspaper education desk's seasonal writer, I've submitted an article on this publication. Do look out for it on The Star's education pullout in the coming weeks. Again, I would like to stress that the base of the creation of this page is one of sense rather than one of a frivolous nature. Until then, I'm signing off and hope the administrators will take good consideration on the matter and fellow wikipedian editors to debate in good faith, well manner and most importantly; civil demeanor. Thanks! ChesC (talk) 17:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 03:51, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Obviously isn't notable. Even if The Star publishes an article on it, that won't be significant coverage in secondary sources. --Bejnar (talk) 01:59, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete There is nothing current to suggest this is notable. I respect both the good faith and non-frivolous nature of the article's creation and the good faith nature of the author's contributions to this conversation, but if our best argument for notability is a potential future article in The Star, that isn't cutting it. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡ  bomb  05:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. No independent sources have been provided. Furthermore, I can't think of any circumstances in which a single issue of a school yearbook would be considered notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article. It would be rare enough to see a single issue of even a professionally published magazine become the subject of its own Wikipedia article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.