Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremiah Riggs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus to delete. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeremiah Riggs

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Appears to be non-notable. Riggs has fought only two professional fights at local/regional events. Very sparse coverage of him on the Internet (mostly fight records and blog entries about the two TV shows he's appeared on). Seems his biggest claim to fame is either a one episode appearance on The Ultimate Fighter or being a participant in the reality show Daisy of Love. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  —TreyGeek (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - definetly not notable as a mixed martial artist and I doubt his reality show appearances makes him qualify. -- aktsu (t / c) 15:09, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Riggs has had plenty of fights. Some of the fights have not been picked up by Sherdog. He to me is a very notable mma fighter. I can understand why you would think he's not but to me and a lot of other people he is. Being on two reality shows doesn't make you famous but for Riggs I think there is an exception. He is known by a lot of people ranging from grown men to young girls. This article should stay but either way is fine. Justastud15 (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not an over achiever, but he has fought professionally and that qualifies under wp:athlete. Niteshift36 (talk) 06:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really. The status of being a professional in MMA is not equal to being a professional in boxing or the NFL etc. Most states sanctioning MMA don't have amateur status so everyone is professionals. If you take a look at WT:MMA we currently have a discussion going as for what the equals status to being a professional is other sports is, and Riggs doesn't even come close IMO. -- aktsu (t / c) 14:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Two fights in total, the last one over a year ago doesn't equate to competing "at the fully professional level of a sport," in my opinion. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Normally, I'd classify myself as a deletionist. Even if we leave out the fine points debate about what is or is not professional, this one goes a little past that. Aside from the two pro fights, he's also appeared on 2 national shows. Neither of those appearences would qualify him by themselves, but adding them to the 2 fights and membership on a notable team (HIT Squad), to me adds up to being notable enough. I'm staying with my keep at this point. On a seperate note, I read the discussion about fine-tuning the criteria for MMA notability and I think it's a good idea. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


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