Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Vine (TV show)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 16:38, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Jeremy Vine (TV show)

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As far as I can tell this show is The Wright Stuff, only with a different host. Do we need a separate article, or can this be merged? Laun chba ller 15:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to The Wright Stuff for now, do the appropriate tweaks and adjustments and move to this title once it premieres and we know if it'll be a Ctrl+C of TWS. No sense in turning this into a toss-off of theories about how 'some people' think the replacement host is uninspired.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:51, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment – this is currently incorrectly disambiguated (as per WP:NCTV) in any case: if the result is "redirect", then it should first be moved to Jeremy Vine (talk show) before being converted into a redirect. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Different show. There might have been origins with The Wright Stuff (named after Matthew Wright, that show's host), but this is now a different now with a different host and title just as Late Show with David Letterman transformed into The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. It would be nonsensical to have an article for The Wright Stuff when readers really want to know about this show. The Daily Express, The Daily Telegraph, The Sun, the Corwall edition of Local World and the Telegraph & Argus have all written extensively on this upcoming show.   None of these refer to this show as "The Write Stuff" with the latter going as far as to write, "The presenter’s self-titled programme is set to replace The Wright Stuff..."  To call this show "The Wright Stuff" would be factually incorrect as per all reliable sources. --Oakshade (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I agree that the two shows are comparable if I'm honest. The Late Show gets millions of viewers per episode, while The Wright Stuff is lucky to get a million viewers over the course of a month. I say the most recent coverage is a case of recentism, and it would be better to merge.-- Laun chba ller 09:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Viewership has nothing to do with this being a specific network show or not. If you'd like to contact the Daily Express, The Daily Telegraph, The Sun and every other reliable source and let them know this show they're reporting on is not at all the Jeremy Vine show with Jeremy Vine but in fact The Wright Stuff with Matthew Wright and they all issue retractions explaining so, then I'll change my !vote to "delete."  Until then it's factually incorrect to redirect to a "The Write Stuff."  The only redirect I'd consider is to Jeremy Vine but we're going to call this 'The Wright Stuff' even though Matthew Wright has nothing to do with this show because a Wikipedia editor thinks this should be called 'The Wright Stuff'. --Oakshade (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Would be beneficial to have some further discussion following Oakshade's comment.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 01:55, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: Clearly passes WP:NTV. Having a separate article would in no way be inappropriate – compare GMTV/Daybreak/Good Morning Britain. OZOO (t) (c) 14:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It is well watched and therefore notable. scope_creep (talk) 18:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep New name and new host, looks like the network is treating it as a new show, so we can too. Clearly passes WP:NTV. --GRuban (talk) 14:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


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