Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerilyn Sawyer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Jayjg (talk) 05:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Jerilyn Sawyer

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Seems to have been created by the person which is a WP:COI if that is the case, the article has no cited sources and I'm really not seeing any notability per WP:BIO and WP:BLP. Bidgee (talk) 16:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 *  Weak Keep Delete: References are a mess, but if "Jerilyn was nominated for the 47th Annual Grammy Awards" is true, then she may satisfy WP:MUSICBIO #8 - "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award". What we need is a source that confirms it and describes the nature of the award she was nominated for. (Nothing else in the article seems sufficiently notable, and none of the sources given seems to convey sufficient notability - "sang the national anthem", mentions in passing, etc) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to 'Delete' after failing to find any evidence of Grammy nomination - the list found by Dylanfromthenorth, below, seems fairly conclusive (but I'll change back if anyone can actually find it) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:V - I can't independently verify the claims of notability (Grammy award etc.). Claritas § 17:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I've been searching and I couldn't verify it either - couldn't find anything on the Grammy site (but it is a very poor site). I've asked the original author if they have a reference, or at least some details of the category. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I was writing a paper on a currently living singer for my college course at Berklee College of Music, and was lucky to come across this page. Jerilyn Sawyer's music may not be mainstream, but it is something that we have reviewed and studied in the past few years. I found this information,along with other sources, to be very helpful in creating my term paper. Please do not delete this page, because you will turn away many students who are looking for her information, whom will simply look elsewhere. I find this page very informative and very relevant. I can personally verify that she was nominated for a Grammy award, and will personally search for a link to verify that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jejegirl12 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Reported to an admin as a possible sockpuppet of page creator. —  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 18:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Closing admin will note the similarity of and .   Acroterion  (talk)  18:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

We both had used this article for a class term paper a few months back. That has drawn me to comment.

Could you please explain why I am being sited for sockpuppeting? I am not new to the use of wikipedia, but am a new log in member. I simply stated my opinion in the deletion matter, and am questioning why my opinion id being defaulted into the term "sockpuppeting." My opinion should be taken seriosuly like everyone elses, not categorized in a way to brush it off :( The other user that you claim is also me is a student at the same University as me. She had posted what she was editing for articles on facebook, and when I viewed them saw deletion pages, in which i decided to comment. We are not the same person by any means. Cant people have similar opinions????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jejegirl12 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears that all your edits to Wikipedia so far have been to pages related to Jerilyn Sawyer or to pages related to Nationwide Diesel Technologies, a company owned by Jerilyn Sawyer's father. When an editor appears to be editing in only a particularly narrow area of topics, especially when they have admitted that they are a classmate of the person they are writing about, the editor may appear to be a single-purpose account. The best way to get past this is to make some constructive edits to Wikipedia pages that have nothing to do with your friends and family or their friends and family. (By the way, you said you "both" used this article for a term paper. Who is the other person?) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm sorry, but your personal verification doesn't count. Independent sources are required. Working with notable people doesn't confer notability of itself. Performing in a parade is not notable. Grammy nominated? I can find nothing to back this up. A search for '"Jerilyn Sawyer" grammy 47th' gives 9 hits. Two are here, and the rest either don't seem to mention her, or to be bloggish stuff, or to mirror Wikipedia articles. That is about the only real claim to notability I can see in the article, and proper reliable independent evedence is needed before we can accept that claim. I've looked at grammy.com, and can't see any listing of previous nominations there. Doesn't mean it isn't there, though, or it may well be found somewhere else. Up to you to produce it.... Good luck with the career, anyway. If this goes, get some references sorted out and applied to the appropriate statements, and try again. (If not sure how to do, ask for help. Most of us regulars will be willing to help or point in the right direction.) Peridon (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete According to this list of nominees Jerilyn Sawyer wasn't one of them. I can't see any other signs of notability as per WP:MUSICBIO, so unless some are produced this article should be deleted. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 20:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Possibly Jerilyn was submitted for the Grammy award rather than nominated. "Record companies and individuals may submit recordings to be nominated." (quoted from Grammy Award. I would think that this might be a mistake in terminology. There is a link to the grammy.com list on the link above, but it won't work for me. Anyone else have a go? May need to contact the webmaster. Peridon (talk) 20:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I get a 404 error from the link too - it looks like it was a txt file that isn't there any more. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. In the absence of evidence that the subject was actually nominated for a Grammy, the subject appears not to qualify under any of the WP:MUSIC criteria. (A musician doesn't have to have a Grammy nomination to be notable, but none of the other things Sawyer is listed as doing seem to qualify her as notable.) However, if it turns out that she personally was nominated for a Grammy (as opposed to, say, "she was one of 20 singers providing backup vocals on one track of an album that was nominated for a Grammy"), I would be likely to change my recommendation to "keep". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Agreed. No grammy, no article. Vartanza (talk) 03:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)


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