Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry's Kids (band)


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The result was no consensus. Lack of participation (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:31, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Jerry's Kids (band)

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I found no significant coverage. Fails WP:BAND. SL93 (talk) 18:54, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:22, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:22, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. I spent some time looking, and get the impression the band actually had a devoted following - small, but devoted. However, there just wasn't enough to meet GNG nor WP:BAND. The closest was item 6: "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians..."; band member Chris Doherty has an article. Some details of my search follow.
 * The article has no references. Searching found some sources, e.g.:
 * https://www.taang.com/jerry-s-kids . This is one of the band's labels, so it's not independent. Also, there's a copyright violation! Either this link stole from Wikipedia, or Wikipedia stole from it. I refer to the paragraph that starts with "Frontman Bryan Jones and rhythm guitar player Dave Aronson left the band..."
 * There are tons of other music-based sources, and even social media (e.g., discogs, amazon, facebook), but I didn't see anything especially useful.
 * brief entries in books, e.g., "American Hardcore", which indicated the band once played at CBGB.
 * FWIW, I looked at the external links on the article page.
 * Suburban Voice Interview – Jerry's Kids interview from 1982 led me to https://web.archive.org/web/20100912032558/http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/suburbanvoicejerryskids.html . Yep - it's just an interview.
 * KFTH Jerry's Kids Kill From The Heart page on Jerry's Kids led me to https://web.archive.org/web/20150527094543/https://files.nyu.edu/cch223/public/usa/jerryskids_main.html  . This page has some links,including to two interviews.
 * Reflex/Wolfpack Records page on Discogs led me to https://web.archive.org/web/20140920013705/http://www.discogs.com/label/417465-ReflexWolfpack-Records. Nothing to speak of. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 21:17, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * [forgot to add originally]If you want a more complete article, go to the German wikipedia at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry%E2%80%99s_Kids . There are more interviews, and a little more history. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 21:29, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: Unimportant and obscure local band that neither meets the GNG nor fulfills the criteria of WP:BAND.   Ravenswing     00:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Subjective Keep. This was an established outfit within the HC scene, played out fairly widely. I'm confused by "This is one of the band's labels, so it's not independent" - see Taang! Records. Are you saying this isn't an independent label, that it belonged to the band? I've seen label bios used as sources elsewhere, although I will agree not as an indicator of notability. But the links and detail on the german article should be sufficient. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I can translate my German aericle if that helps, but right now I'm on holiday for one more week. Kind regards, Grueslayer 11:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I,m sorry, Wwwhatsup, I didn't mean to imply ownership but, as you said, that it doesn't indicate notability. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk)

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