Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry Acuff


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Userfy.. No consensus that article meets inclusion guidelines, and article creator has agreed to work on it in his user space. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Jerry Acuff

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Prod removed by creator. No reliable sources given (or found) to demonstrate notability of an individual. Having been to the White House is not a valid claim to notability. tedder (talk) 06:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- tedder (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete/Userfy A Google News Search suggests to me that he might be notable enough for an article, as a recognized expert in his field, but to establish him as such here would require a completely new article with many cited sources. As there are no citations here, there's nothing worth keeping. But from the Talk page it looks like the creator knows the article is currently inadequate but didn't realize it would be a problem; he seems ready and willing to work on improving it in his userspace. Propaniac (talk) 15:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note the few news articles I saw seemed to be from PR and less-reliable sources. If I missed some, please say so. tedder (talk) 19:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Look, I am sorry this is causing such a problem, I obviously need help crafting the article properly. The fact that you won't find that many reference's to Jerry on a simple Google search is because of the industry he is in. He is a leading voice in Pharmaceutical selling, and if you are not familiar with that industry, most of what people discuss about selling is limited to that industry and would not be in trade rags or lots of website. Jerry has several published books and is an avid speaker and teaches at a university. What am I missing to satisfy that he is indeed a leading individual in his area? I have already agreed to take this down and work on it in my own space. It just seems like the only comments have been critical, with only one person actually offering me help. Isn't this a community of people supporting each other? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrpsu (talk • contribs) 22:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Jrpsu, this is a community, but new pages that appear to be created as a conflict of interest or to advertise an entity are often not looked upon terribly well. Removing the proposed deletion looks that way too. If you know how, feel free to do it (edit the article, create User:Jrpsu/Jerry Acuff, then say so here). Otherwise I'll simply move it over, if you'd like me to.
 * Even though the industry is (supposedly) quiet, that's true of many industries and topics- my obsession, motorcycling, has the same thing. Anyhow, WP:V is probably the most important thing you can read right now. In other words, Wikipedia is all about reliable sources and verifiability, not truth. Write the article first, don't hope the house will build itself. Drop by my talk page for further guidance. tedder (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 16:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

Weak Keep. Sure it's a horrid article, but the man has authored three books for Wiley, as well as being CEO of something.--JohnnyB256 (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * weak delete It looks like the sourcing just doesn't pass WP:BIO, but I'm willing to change my mind if more sourcing is presented. JoshuaZ (talk) 03:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.