Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry Toupin


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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 07:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Jerry Toupin

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I came across this as an A7 nomination, however the claim of the author having a bestselling book would be enough to barely squeak by notability guidelines. The sources on the page are unusable to establish notability, as one is to an e-commerce site (which shouldn't be on Wikipedia at all) and the other is a WP:PRIMARY source, Toupin's YouTube channel.

A search didn't bring up much - I found this mention in a book put out by Laval University, however since Toupin graduated from the school, it'd be well within their best interests to write about him. Now this looks to be usable, but I didn't really find anything else to establish Toupin's notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  04:04, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a BLP with no reliable sources at all.  A  Train ''talk 13:25, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: Would any of the stuff in his CV help out? Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  03:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete, does not meet WP:NAUTHOR or WP:GNG, present article references from amazon.ca and youtube are not useable for notability, a gsearch brings up nothing suitable ie. mirrors, amazon, youtube, gooreads, appears to be a vanity page, having been created by . Coolabahapple (talk) 07:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Almost zero citations in GS. Why was this BLP written? Xxanthippe (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2016 (UTC).
 * COI self-promotion, if you check the creator's username. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable writer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:40, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. A writer is not automatically eligible for a Wikipedia article just because he exists — reliable source coverage, supporting a claim of notability that passes WP:AUTHOR, is necessary before an article becomes earned. But that's not what's on offer here: his own YouTube channel and a sales page for his book on Amazon are primary sources, not reliable or independent ones. And on a ProQuest search, I found nothing that would bolster his sourceability at all — although I did at least find an explanation for the "bestseller" claim: it made the local bestsellers list in the Edmonton Journal in 2015. But that's not what it takes to pass AUTHOR because bestseller; it takes making the national bestsellers list, which his book did not achieve. Also WP:COI, as the article was created by JERRY1414. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)


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