Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jersey Wanderers (Under 16 Division 1)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. No article exists for the main club, and this deletion doesn't mean someone can't create a Jersey Wanderers article. - Krakatoa  Katie  02:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Jersey Wanderers (Under 16 Division 1)

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An under 16 league is not notable per WP:N but they author seems to assert that this is an important or famous team otherwise. I disagree but declined the speedy delete to err on side of caution. I think it is non-notable. JodyByak, yak, yak 22:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "'Keep:' Personally i suggest you keep it because they are a good Jersey U16's team and we (Jersey) love them. Why delete a page when it is flaunting these young mens talent. Goooo Wanderers !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.112.134.39 (talk • contribs) 01:10, August 26, 2007
 * Delete - it seems to be edging on conflict of interest (WP:COI) and possibly advertisement (WP:ADVERT). ALTON   .ıl  23:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Historically and locally significant club, independent confirmation of this with this and this BBC articles. They have been the Jersey Islands champion multiple times,this and is a list of winners, between the champions of Jersey and Guensey. Wanderers have been overall champions 11 times and beaten finalists 13 times, out of the 90 times that the competition has been held, and with 20 wins in all competitions they hold the record for most competitions won. So shouldn't be deleted for non notablity, questions with regards the way it is written can be dealt with editing and rewriting. KTo288 00:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have no doubt that Jersey Wanderers deserve an article, per the above. But this isn't for their main team - it is for their Under 16 side. A rename and rescope would seem to be in order. Grutness...wha?  01:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)]
 * Comment Point taken, strange that there is no article for the senior team.KTo288 19:48, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge A youth team isn't notable. The information can be put into the main article on the club. Nick mallory 02:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete While the senior team may possibly be notable, the youth team is not. --Malcolmxl5 13:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as NN youth team. – Elisson • T • C • 23:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Since there does not seem to be a article about the club as a whole, retitle this article as "Jersey Wanderers" and expand it into an article about the club as a whole. Although the under 16's by themselves might fail notability and fail to deserve an article, the detail about the under 16 team can perhaps stay as a subsection of a larger article, together with details about the clubs history and the senior team etc. I guess that those that are passionate about the youth team will be equally passionate and proud of the club as a whole. If we do this we will have a win win situation as parts of the existing article will survive and we'll get an article of a pre-eminent Jersey club.KTo288 01:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me (then again, it's pretty much an expansion of what I suggested above :) Grutness...wha?  01:25, 26 August 2007 (UTC) (clicked the wrong button, tried to fix it and got an edit conflict with that damn Sinebot thing)
 * CommentThanks Grutness I'm being a bit slow as I've only just worked out what you meant by "rescope". I know all the regulars on AfD's have developed your own shorthand, but sometimes it helps to spell things out. This could be probably the first AfD that some editors have experienced, and with the terse responses all they get is a feeling of hostility to their page (even if none is intended) I'm trying to sell my suggestion in a such a way that it is attractive to both sides of this debate, to those in favour of deleting, a non notable article dissapears from Wikipedia,to the clubs fans and adherents they get the opportunity to create an article about a club they love.KTo288 09:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, and no offence intended on my part. FWIW, I'm a regular at the stub types deletion page, where "rescope" is in standard use to mean "slightly change the subject area covered by this article/template/category". Perhaps I should add a comment about it at Glossary... Grutness...wha?  23:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No offense taken, and apologies if it seems that I have taken offense.KTo288 03:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 10:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notable youth team. Shame there isn't a Jersey Wanderers F.C. article though. Number   5  7  10:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and create a Jersey Wanderers F.C. article from scratch. None of this info is notable enough to find a home in such an article anyway ChrisTheDude 10:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - whatever the notability of the club, there is simply notability for this junior team. TerriersFan 22:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.