Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Brock


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Icewedge (talk) 21:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Jesse Brock

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fails WP:MUSICBIO Dlabtot (talk) 23:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not yet notable. Kevin (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep claims to International Bluegrass Music Association awards, which are covered by the AP Martin Raybourne (talk) 20:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * please read WP:MUSICBIO. "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." Dlabtot (talk) 20:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Seems to be adequate coverage for a short article for this young musician . ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for including that google link, which shows pretty definitively the he has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable. We do have specific criteria for determining whether a musician is notable enough to merit an article on Wikipedia. You can find it at WP:MUSICBIO. Being 'young' is not a part of it, and neither are brief trivial mentions in stories about some other topic. Dlabtot (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete No non-trivial sources; everything Child dug up was trivial. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep under WP:ANYBIO. Subject has won one individual and four group awards from the IBMA, which are notable (for example, 2009 awards were given out about two weeks ago, and GNews reports more than 200 hits). Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 19:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From the IBMA page: "IBMA, is a trade association to promote bluegrass music." Trade associations make up bogus "awards" all the time to promote their products.  That doesn't make them notable. In fact the IBMA article lacks any references or sources and has been so tagged for more than a year.  There is no indication of notability. They apparently do know how to issue a press release, however. Dlabtot (talk) 23:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't yet have a clear view, but I've added some refs to the article and have left word on a couple of pages to see if we can't get some more comment from people in this area.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, just saw a Wall Street Journal article which I added to the IBMA article, which indicated that the IMBA awards are the genre's Grammys. If the IBMA award is deemed a major award, I think he qualifies by virtue of his individual IBMA award this year.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - if it can be verified, because he has toured nationally, and has gottom some notable awards, which are enough to pass WP:MUSICBIO. Bearian (talk) 15:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bearian, Hull, Child, and WSJ article. Meets notable award criterion.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:38, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
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