Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessica Bird (TV character)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to List of characters in Sea Patrol.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 12:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Jessica Bird (TV character)

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Non-notable fictional character. All sources are primary and don't establish notability. Fails WP:GNG and WP:FICTION. A brief discussion of the character in the Sea Patrol article should suffice. Snotty Wong  converse 18:32, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep character is a main cast member recently introduced into a multi-season show. Google News Archive shows two RS hits for this character, meeting GNG. Jclemens (talk) 02:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge along with all the other character articles into List of Sea Patrol characters. Unless I've missed one (main) character article of this show by accident, not a single one actually establishes WP:Notability and all articles violate WP:NOT, WP:WAF and WP:SPINOUT. Character lists are widely accepted on wikipedia, and all character articles of this TV show are rather short so that they can be merged into the list without losing any information. – sgeureka t•c 10:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep / merge: I see the sources from Jclemens. It might be enough to WP:verifynotability. But a merge might be a safer bet. No prejudice against reopening this discussion later. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mike Cline (talk) 19:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * Merge per Sgeureka. The sources found by Jclemens are trivial mentions: "Meanwhile, former Neighbours actress Danielle Horvat (Taylah Jordan) will also join the series as Jessica Bird." - that's not enough to base an article around. --GRuban (talk) 19:41, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect per sgeureka, GRuban, or WP:Merge to a Characters section to be created in Sea Patrol (TV series). At the level of coverage they merit, Sea Patrol characters may be well-served by a List of characters in Sea Patrol article. It seems unlikely that an encyclopedic, well-sourced, non-stub article could be written about this character (or most from the show) without resorting to deeply in-universe plot recap. / edg ☺ ☭ 23:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Expand or merge into a section of a combination article--I have no clear idea just how important her role is in the series, because the article is not sufficiently developed even in the in-universe aspects to explain it--and the articles on the episode are totally unencyclopedic, being one sentence teasers that, in the characteristic TV teaser fashion that we should not tolerate on Wikipedia, omit anything but the statement of the dramatic crisis, without saying what actually happens in the episodes. We have n no rule against detailed in-uiverse plot recap when it's the way to present material. We have a rule against the article of group of articles on a work of fiction as a whole being limited enirely to the in-universe description of the plot. We do have a role about not omitting  necessary information if there's a reliable source, in this situation the episodes themselves. But in any case there is certainly room here for production information, for it does not even give the very basic information of just which episodes she appears in.    DGG ( talk ) 02:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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