Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessica Doyle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The arguments for deletion seem to outweigh the other options brought forth. –MuZemike 19:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Jessica Doyle

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Non-notable politician's spouse (nice enough lady in person, but not notable). Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  02:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I know better than to say WP:OTHERSTUFF, but 23 other states' (and 2 territories'!) First Ladies have articles, and they even have their own navigation template. —DoRD (talk) 03:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The late Missouri Governor Warren Hearnes's wife Betty was a member of the Missouri House of Representatives. Therefore, she is entitled to her own article. Most of the spouses of the Vice President of the United States have have their articles. This is getting a little fuzzy. Thank you-RFD (talk) 03:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. I went back and forth on this; but I see nothing notable about this particular first lady. Notable information in this article should be included in the article about the governor and/or on perhaps on a list of Wisconsin First Spouses. Some first ladies are notable in their own right, such as Maria Shriver and Marjorie Rendell. Jessica Doyle does not appear to meet WP:BIO. Quoting from the essay WP:ITSA: "Family members of celebrities also must meet Wikipedia's notability criteria on their own merits – the fact that they have famous relatives is not, in and of itself, sufficient to justify an independent article." Quoting from guideline WP:BIO: "That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being their spouse, is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A)" First ladies of the U.S. receive a good deal of national press coverage; Jessica Doyle hardly receives any local coverage in Wisconsin. --BaronLarf 05:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If an article on a political spouse has to be sourced mainly to her husband's own personal website, rather than to actual media, then that strongly suggests that she isn't particularly notable in her own right. While it's certainly not impossible for a state first lady to be notable enough for inclusion (frex, I'm Canadian and even I've heard of Silda Wall Spitzer and Maria Shriver), unlike a national first lady they certainly don't qualify as automatically notable just by virtue of the role. Delete unless actual sources can be added. Bearcat (talk) 06:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete The article relies almost exclusively on primary sources, and Wikipedia itself. That being said, being the First Lady of an US state does not sound that non-notable. My opinion on this would be delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Blodance (talk) 08:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Jessica Doyle travels across the state promoting literacy, state pride, and local culture. She is notable in her own right as the First Lady of the State of Wisconsin. Plenty of other state's first ladies have their own articles- why not her? Thank you. --DevelopementEditor (talk) 09:48, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge & Redirect to Jim Doyle. Sorry if that sounds sexist but she's only got any notability through her husband's political career.  Like a lot of other first ladies she's famous only for being famous.  Frankly most of the other articles ought to be merged too. NtheP (talk) 15:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The article on Marilyn Quayle got redirected to her husband's article. Then it was discovered she wrote some best selling books and the article had to be brought up. I opposed merging articles about people who turn out to be notable in their own right. Therefore, I agree with Developement Editor-the article should be kept-Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with you in principle i.e spouses who are notable in their own right, should have their own article. However the whole point of this AfD is that Jessica Doyle isn't notable in her own right.  What DevelopementEditor suggests doesn't appear notable to me.  For example, would she be doing this work if her husband wasn't governor?  Somehow I doubt it. NtheP (talk) 14:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I am trying to bring back the article on Betty Hearnes. She was the wife of Missouri Governor Warren Hearnes. But she had a separate political career by serving in the Missouri House of Representatives. Nthep you are right there is a principle involved. Thank you-RFD (talk) 14:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.