Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessica Nigri (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) czar   &middot;   &middot;  23:54, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Jessica Nigri
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The coverage in Google News may look impressive, but none of seems to be from reliable sources--like, eh, print media. This person is not covered enough to warrant an article in an encyclopedia, albeit an online encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Update: I just saw that there was a previous AfD, whose results give me no reason to change my mind. Drmies (talk) 21:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions.   czar   &middot;   &middot;  22:34, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  22:34, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom Robert McClenon (talk) 22:42, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. Well... you don't have to be covered in print media to really be considered notable as long as the websites that have given her coverage are considered to be reliable. The big thing here is that while I've seen reliable sites mention her, they're pretty much posting galleries of her work. While she's pretty much known for cosplaying (and looking freaking hot while doing so), we still need more in-depth coverage, which is what I'm not entirely seeing here. It's sort of a borderline thing here. Since she's really received the most coverage for her winning the contest to portray Starling, there might be merit in creating a subsection in the article that mentions her and redirect to there. I'm thinking that it would be best served as a section named "Marketing and promotion" and say something along the lines of "In 2012 the company created a contest to choose a model to portray Juliet Starling at conventions. Jessica Nigiri, known for her detailed cosplay of characters from games, comics, and shows such as Gears of War and Pokemon, was named the winner and portrayed Starling at several conventions that same year." Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Btw: print media are dying. (But even then for example Complex and PSOM are print media alright.) --Niemti (talk) 06:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That would give us a 7-paragraph interview in Complex. I don't know what PSOM means. Drmies (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - I see coverage in multiple RSes. Looks to me like it meets WP:GNG. May never reach FA status, but it meets the minimum inclusion criteria. At worst it should me merged into Lollipop Chainsaw, not deleted. -Thibbs (talk) 13:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, Juliet Starling also deserves her own article. --Niemti (talk) 13:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Which one of those websites are deemed reliable, besides, as pointed out above, Complex? Drmies (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Of the ones cited in the article I see GameZone, Official PlayStation Magazine, and Kotaku which are all listed as reliable at WP:VG/RS. There are other sources like this from Destructoid (written by Destructoid's associate editor). I haven't really done any searching beyond that, but the minimum inclusion criterion is coverage in multiple RSes and it seems we have that here. Even if deletion is off the table, anybody could propose a merge on the talk page or at WP:PM. -Thibbs (talk) 05:14, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - lots of mentions in possibly reliable sources. Possibly being overly inclusionist here, because problematic IMO is that there seems to be very little biographical information available; even her date of birth in the first line is unsourced.  AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 07:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * OPSM, not PSOM OPM. Birth date: --Niemti (talk) 10:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - There's enough coverage from reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. (WP:VG/S shows there is consensus that many of the sources listed already are reliable. Sergecross73   msg me   13:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Enough coverage to meet GNG, and one of the more notable cosplayers. Due to the lack of stuff to actually write about a merge may be preferable in the future. Ryan Norton 19:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep There's no requirement that a source must be printed to be considered reliable. Coverage is varied enough to pass WP:GNG. -- Norvy (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Cosplay models?  Seriously? Gamaliel (talk) 16:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's a weak reason. I don't especially care about cosplay models either, but just about anything can have an article as long as it meets the WP:GNG and doesn't violate WP:NOT. Sergecross73   msg me   13:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I have nothing against cosplay models, so that hardly applies, I just don't feel like they meet notability requirements. Gamaliel (talk) 03:37, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I guess its just hard to tell, considering you still haven't given an actual reason why... Sergecross73   msg me   13:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * To expand on what Sergecross73 is saying, I think it would be good to address the idea that it fails to meet notability requirements despite the fact pointed out above that the article is supported by multiple apparently reliable 3rd party sources. For many that's the definition of notability. -Thibbs (talk) 14:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Lots of people have passing mentions or small articles about them in third party sources. It doesn't automatically equal notability, especially when it comes to a BLP.  Gamaliel (talk) 18:48, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm familiar enough with her without giving a damn about cosplay (almost to the point of disdain toward it) that I'd call her notable. Also a girl as cute as that should be everywhere. Only mostly joking. Also I don't really Wikipedia so I hope I did the formatting on this right the first time...(Edit: I did not.) 67.163.142.8 (talk) 23:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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