Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesus in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep; if a merge is imperative, it can be done without an Afd. Johnleemk | Talk 06:53, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Jesus in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

 * delete Article needs cleanup, citation, and verification Ginar 02:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 15:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Jesus Merge into Religious perspectives on Jesus. This can be adequately covered there. --Ezeu 17:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, expand. Jesus is already at 47k, and the differences between LDS Jesus and Protestant Jesus are sufficient to carry an article. BD2412  T 17:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, if not speedy keep All reasons given for the nomination are matters for the talk page, not AfD, and AfD is not required to edit the article. Also per BDA. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 19:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge to Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and leave a redirect   Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  19:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per BD2412. An individual groups' view of Jesus is noteworthy (and this could, no doubt, be expanded) but all such views cannot be incorporated, and done justice to, in the Jesus article. --Doc ask? 20:30, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm new here so just quick question, is it true that concerns about verification are addressed in the talk page? I'm involved in another request for delete and I keep hearing "verification" as an excuse for delete. I'm just strugging to see if there is any common application of the rules here. I'm guessing there isn't but is that "just the way it operates". I'm also involved in another delete where the nominator (and admin) has come out and said he'll ignore consensus and delete an entry if it isn't cleaned up by the end of the vote. It seems to me the delete process is highly political. true ??? --Ginar 20:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I answered this as best I could on User talk:Ginar. Ginar, please restrict comments on this page to the subject in hand - whether or not to delete Jesus in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! --kingboyk 22:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - seems to be a valid subpage on a very important topic regarding Mormons. Cyde Weys 2M-VOTE  21:09, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


 * makes sense. I imagine if its a big enough issue there's are other mechanisms (arbitration, etc.). I guess the question becomes how do you decide what's important. ey, yi, yi. It would seem strictly by reference to "the numbers" right? But even that's not enough cause some things are important but only a few people would know (i.e., the esoterica of quantum physics). its enough to make your head spin. anyway, revised my vote to keep. Ginar 21:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The article does need citation, and verification and I agree we all rather glossed over those points in the above.  Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  21:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge Very short article that doesn't stand alone too well. It would make more sense in Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Only caveat: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is already 68kb. --kingboyk 22:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC) Merge to one of the articles suggested below, along with concensus. --kingboyk 21:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Merge and expand/rewrite. Unique concept of Jesus warrants a subarticle that can't be confined to either Jesus or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (both of which are too long already).  Jtmichcock 22:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC) After reviewing other comments, I'm persuaded that Religious perspectives on Jesus is where this belongs.  Jtmichcock 00:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. not enough info to stand on its own. --Revolución (talk) 01:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Needs significant cleanup/expansion but seems a valid subpage, especially where it can claim multiple parent pages. (ESkog)(Talk) 03:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge I was initially going to say keep, but I think this would fit at Religious perspectives on Jesus and that article isn't too long yet.--T. Anthony 03:47, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with main Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints article, or one of its sub-articles.—nihon
 * Merge to Religious perspectives on Jesus -- Astrokey44 |talk 04:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge per Nihon Joe. This would be a fine addition to that article, but it isn't enough on its own. Karm  a  fist  04:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Edit, expand, revise, clean-up are all good options. "Delete" is sheer religious bigotry and not a good option. The articles on "Jesus" and "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" are already too long and should not be encumbered more, but maybe merging with "Religious Perspectives on Jesus" sounds like a good idea. - Das Baz, 17 January 2006. P.S. And yes, by all means leave a redirect.
 * Nobody has voted delete since nomination, so let's not start jumping up and down about religous bigotry. This has been a good natured debate about the best way to use this material. --kingboyk 21:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with Mormonism and Christianity and/or Religious perspectives on Jesus if not determined to be redundant. I'm about to go notify WP:LDS about this, as I've not seen anything about it on there. cooki e caper (talk / contribs) 20:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Religious perspectives on Jesus or Mormonism and Christianity -Visorstuff 20:51, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Merge with Religious perspectives on Jesus - it fits there best, and that's what the article (religious perspectives) was about in the first place. A need for "cleanup, citation, and verification" is no reason to delete. --Trevdna 23:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Mormonism and Christianity - probably the best fit at this time. WBardwin 23:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Religious perspectives on Jesus or Mormonism and Christianity Val42 04:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep agree with BD2412. &mdash;akghetto talk 08:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Religious perspectives on Jesus or Mormonism and Christianity. Good stuff.  Tom Haws 16:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge per cookiecaper. Deadsalmon 17:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.