Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jetset (video game)


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The result was   Nomination withdrawn. BJ Talk 19:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Jetset (video game)

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Seemingly fails to meet notability guidelines, has had templates pointing to that for quite a while, but was still left dangling. I couldn't readily find any information about this program in a web search. LjL (talk) 20:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete, A1. No information on platform, publisher or author; therefore the subject cannot be identified. Marasmusine (talk) 10:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - googling throws up references tyo it as a programme distributed as a listing in BYTE magazine around 1979 . It's possibly historical importance as the first PC Flight simulator is also mentioned. I've thrown a Rescue tag on to the article, with the hope that more sources can be found and that it can be properly expanded. Artw (talk) 00:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice hunting. But as a type-in program it's unlikely to have any reliable third-party verification. The Moby Games submission claims that its publication date was November 1982? I remember typing the BASIC code for this into my ZX Spectrum :> Marasmusine (talk) 09:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My third link had the 1979 link, but got rejected as a spam site. :-( And of course none of those links are actually usable as refs). It appears to have been reprinted a number of times, which adds to the confusion, and It seems to have also gone under the names 747 and Jet Simulator Electronic Trainer. Theres some documentation for it here from a 1982 BYTE, and a bunch of mentions on messageboards, but I'm yet to turn up something that nails down 1979. I'll do another ound of googling tonight. Artw (talk) 18:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep and figure out appropriate merge target. Doesn't need to be lost from flight sim history. Just needs to worked in appropriately somewhere. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But is it part of flight simulation history at all? Was it influential on subsequent flight simulation software in any way? Was it often cited as an example (doesn't seem so if I have to judge from the scarcity of references on thge web)? Also, what sense does it make to "keep" and "merge" an article that's barely one sentence? If information about this game needs to be moved into another article, one may as well rewrite. --LjL (talk) 13:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The relevance of anything like this needs anchoring with secondary sources, if nobody else has written about the significance of this program and slotted it into the history of the genre then we can't do it ourselves. There are numerous books and magazines which delve into the history of video games, and what they uncover is what the focus should be on. No evidence of notability due to the lack of secondary sources, not a potential merge since nothing has been verified. Someoneanother 22:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Here's a reference to it from the Sydney Morning Herald in the 80s:  Fences  &amp;  Windows  23:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * More sources: http://books.google.co.uk/books?q=%2BJetset%20%22flight%20simulator%22%20&um=1&ned=uk&hl=en&sa=N&tab=sp. Fences  &amp;  Windows  23:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - obviously, it's difficult to find sources for such an old and obscure computer game. Bearing that in mind, I think the references found by Fences & Windows above are sufficient to keep this stub. It's pretty borderline, but the references show that it did at least exist; and theoretically this article could be expanded to say more about it. Robofish (talk) 21:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * 'The editor who nominated this article for deletion wishes to Withdraw the nomination. Uninvolved editors are asked to review the debate and close it as Nomination Withdrawn. It seems that some users have found some (weak) references, and although I don't believe the references that have been found assert notability in any way, I'd like to give interested people more time to research this for now.'' Thanks, LjL (talk) 21:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


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