Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewell Towne Vineyards


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The result was keep. Kristen Eriksen (talk) 05:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Jewell Towne Vineyards

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This article fails WP:NN and WP:CORP.

Claims "oldest winery" when it started in 1982. Emphasizes number of medals won, which is meaningless especially when the medals list reveals that they were not for international competitions and predominate in silver and bronze, nothing to brag about, achievable by amateur winemakers. Numerous reliable sources discuss gimmicks and marketing ploys of medal factory competitions.

In spite of the sources referenced, this is a non-notable winery. Sources such as Boston Globe look respectable at first glance, but are actually local-interest coverage. Other sources are minor local papers.

Please also review the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wine before adding your comments. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. At time of time of nomination, the claim is oldest currently active winery, no emphasis of number of medals won or other gimmicky marketing ploys, or otherwise editorializing and first-name cozy language. Sources somewhat exceed smalltown local paper sphere.. It is just about WP:NN and WP:CORP.  M URGH   disc.  11:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


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 * Keep - sources meet WP:V, WP:RS, WP:PSTS which establishes WP:Note.--Jeremy ( Blah blah... ) 19:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I added three more reliable source references to this article (provided below), I believe it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and therefore passes WP:N and WP:CORP.
 * "The time is ripe." New Hampshire Union Leader (Manchester, NH) September 27, 2004, State, Business: C1.
 * "South Hampton vintner wins 7 medals." New Hampshire Union Leader (Manchester, NH) August 30, 2004, State, Business: C2.
 * --Captain-tucker (talk) 02:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Sources seem to be local and coverage may not be substantial enough. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The Boston Globe, even the local edition, is a RS, and the Union Leader is about as big of a newspaper as you are going to find in NH. They doen't have any stories in the NY times, but I consider both of those to definitely meet WP:RS and thus establish WP:N. -- Terrillja talk  15:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep--Wines & Vines magazine, the Boston Globe, and Wine East are not local sources. --Jmundo (talk) 16:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * They are if the article appears in the local-interest section of that paper. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The article appears in the Boston Globe's website (national coverage). I don't think Wines & Vines and Wine East are local sources. --Jmundo (talk) 20:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * All websites are global. Look closer, it's the "local" section of the website. Not that it matters anymore... ~Amatulić (talk) 01:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - sufficient information about a pioneering regional role to merit keeping the article. Tomas e (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article has seen significant improvement since initial discussion on the WikiProject Wine talk page and it seems to meet notability guidelines. Camw (talk) 23:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, and pass the caberenet sauvignon Checks out in regard to WP:RS and WP:CORP. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Jewell Towne Vineyards is a well-referenced article, and the refs are reliable. Captain-tucker has added three more reliable refs. Jewell Towne Vineyards is sufficiently notable to justify a WP article. AdjustShift (talk) 13:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.