Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish Defense League (The Real Story)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Guys, AfD is not the place to go if you want something merged (once something's already on AfD, of course, merging is a valid option &mdash; it doesn't have to be deleted/kept). Please don't use AfD unless you want something deleted outright. Also, "merge and delete" is invalid &mdash; because the history of the deleted article is hidden, the authors of the merged portion are no longer credited, which is a violation of the GFDL. Regardless, it looks like the article was created because User:Benmoshe felt that Jewish Defense League was inaccurate, or at least insufficiently NPOV; these issues can be solved by modifying the original article, not by setting up a new version. This, and to a lesser extent the sheer numbers on the side of deletion, lead me to believe that deletion is the appropriate option. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 15:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Jewish Defense League (The Real Story)
This is a fork of Jewish Defense League, and forking articles is contrary to Wikipedia policy. Merge and delete. -- Curps 01:18, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Humus sapiens&larr;ну? 01:30, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge & Del - I tried to reason with the creator according to WP:bite, but he seems too combative. &larr;

Gentlemen, I may seem combative because neither I nor my organization is being treated objectively or with respect. I may not be experienced in the use of Wikipedia, however, my only purpose is to correct information which seemes to me to be deliberately malicious in nature. I would appreciate your assistance and would be delighted to exchange emails on this subject. I have no idea what "forking articles" means. My real name is: Bill Maniaci, my email address is: maccabee@charter.net. I am 100% open to discussion. --Bill Maniaci 01:41, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete as a forking article. Durova 01:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete the fork. Gateman1997 04:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge & Del - Even if the information in this article is more accurate, it will not serve much purpose because anyone who wants info on the JDL will go to the main article; not this one. Putting "the truth" over in a hidden corner of Wikipedia benefits neither the writer nor Wikipedia.  Work it out on the main article in plain sight of all.  (Also Bill, I moved your first comment on this page so it would be in proper chronological order; we read from the top down.  I know that's kind of odd for a web page so I can understand why you put it on top originally.) capitalist 04:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Please note that merge and delete are not compatible (Guide to deletion). - Mgm|(talk) 12:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it means to merge the information here into the main article, and then delete this article. I guess it's redundant, but not incompatible.
 * Delete POV fork. Firebug 07:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into Jewish Defense League, and then Delete. --Bachrach44 15:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete POV magnet --- Charles Stewart 16:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete the fork - or userfy it, if Bill Maniaci wishes to preserve a copy to work from when editing the main article. Hopefully some users with experience in this area can be found to help resolve the dispute, so we can be sure that the main article itself will present "the real story". &mdash; Haeleth Talk 16:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete duplicate/forked articles. Tim Pierce 21:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: POV fork. No Account 23:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge anything that can be salvaged in a NPOV way into Jewish Defense League, and delete as a separate, unnecessary article. *Dan T.* 23:59, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete advertising, spam. Appears to be a recruitment attempt.--MONGO 01:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete POV in concept and execution. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 09:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, any pertinent information on this page is already used on the parent article. Andrew Levine 18:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete -- POV fork and propaganda. If I was an admin I'd give some thought to protecting the original page as well -- a quick look shows that the article has degenerated into a trainwreck. Haikupoet 03:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.