Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish regiment (Russian Civil War)


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:29, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Jewish regiment (Russian Civil War)

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The article is not verifiable, and it seems that a hoax is a feasible explanation. The same article has been deleted in the Ru-wiki after the adf discussion, in which it had been shown that no reliable sources contain information on this "regiment", while, on the other hand, the existent sources show that the size of the Jewish formation in Ataman Semyonov's "army" (all of it no more than 1,000 men) was no bigger than a company. -- Prokurator11 (talk) 05:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The Russian Wikipedia deletion discussion says it all. I've had no more luck in locating RS on this side of the pond. Alessandra Napolitano (talk) 07:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete The claim that the article is based on Chita Oblast archive and local newspapers indicates at best OR even if true. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Prokurator11, is there any verified information here we can upmerge to any other more general articles? Buckshot06 (talk) 20:09, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This question was also raised during the adf debate in ru-wiki. Some scattered bits of information could indeed be found to support the claim about the participation of several Jews in Semyonov's formation. However, even according to those somewhat obscure and barely verifiable sources, the "Jewish unit" was as big as a company and its "highest ranking officer" was a non-commissioned officer. This could (arguably) be "the nucleus of truth" inside the story behind the article, while the rest of the info in the article seems to be a hoax. Deleting the unverifiable information about the unit's history and deeds will leave the article as simply stating that several persons of Jewish origin participated in "Semyonov's army", and this information by itself, lacking proper sources to back it, could hardly be recognized as an issue of sufficient notability to be stated in a separate article or even in an article on the wider issue. -- Prokurator11 (talk) 08:36, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
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