Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jews for Judaism


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The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. Jclemens makes a good case for merging with Jews for Jesus but he was the only one mentioning it. I recommend a standard mergeto request be made. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Jews for Judaism

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There is no evidence that this organization meets the general notability guideline; specifically, there are no citations to reliable, third-party sources as needed to meet our policy on verifiability. *** Crotalus *** 15:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 *  Strong Keep I found articles about Jews for Judaism in the following five major newspapers: Prsaucer1958 (talk) 20:35, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Los Angeles Times (Sep 5, 1992)
 * The Washington Times (August 7, 1998)
 * Jerusalem Post Jul 9, 2006
 * USA Today (Aug 19, 1996)
 * Salt Lake Tribue (March 8, 1997)


 * Keep Clearly notable group. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 21:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  —Jayjg (talk) 22:52, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Jews for Jesus. Looking at the mentions above, 4 of 5 clearly place "Jews for Judaism" in the context of a larger focus on (and as a reaction to) the "Jews for Jesus" group.  If this group were independently notable, there should be multiple, non-trivial, reliable source mentions that mention THIS group, without mentioning "Jews for Jesus".  Still, V is met, and it's clear that this group exists as a criticism of the more notable group, so merging into a criticism of Jews for Jesus seems the appropriate way to cover this. It's what the RS'es cited above seem to do. Jclemens (talk) 23:05, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:48, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per above keeps.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Prsaucer1958.&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 12:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a well-known counter-missionary organization; there are more than 400 news articles about this organization shown at Google News archives.  It doesn't just deal with Jews for Jesus, or even just Messianic Judaism.  See, for example, this very recent article from Ha'aretz in which a Jews for Judaism representative is quoted in connection with the reported activities of Jehovah's Witnesses in Israel; and they are also mentioned repeatedly for their criticisms of the Kabbalah Centre.--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:31, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep plenty of WP:RS and WP:NOTABILITY evident within the 13,500 Google hits alone. This organization is one of the only purely Orthodox Judaism counter-missionary organizations with broad support and influence in North America. IZAK (talk) 03:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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