Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jhai Dhillon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Now sockpuppets have been identified, there is a clear consensus that this player is not notable. Fenix down (talk) 06:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Jhai Dhillon

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. BlameRuiner (talk) 07:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - I can't find any sources (such as Soccerbase) showing he played a first-team competitive game for Stevenage, so fails NFOOTBALL. Also fails GNG. GiantSnowman 11:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete does not even meet our overly broad inclusion criteria for footballers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep + (Comments) He was on the books for Stevenage and was in the Youth academy, he played in some friendly first team games, but as far as I can see, he didn't make any first team apps. However he could pass WP:GNG, I am not sure a true WP:BEFORE has been done, football.london article dailystar(tabloid know) thenonleaguefootball paper, asainimage (RS?) Dunstable Today (local Dunstable newspaper) a passing mention from a BBC article. I can't be bothered to go on, but there are a fair number of articles on him, non-league football games he played in, a fair number of sites have mentioned him, profile articles are out there. Again the delete votes above are kinda pathetic and I am pretty sure that keeps popping up either delete or keep here and there without doing any research into an article! Govvy (talk) 13:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * He does not meet the notability guidelines for footballers. The passing references are not enough to constitute passing the general notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not looking at just a footballer, one looks for everything about a person, if it was just about football, he fail hands down, tell me, did you even bother doing one google search? Govvy (talk) 13:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Someone opening a restaurant and being named checked in the local rag doesn't exactly meet WP:GNG. Otherwise there'd be articles left, right and centre about semi-pro athletes who've gone on to open small businesses. --Jimbo[online] 12:56, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete not a notable footballer as only played non-league, not a notable business person, the articles above are either not quite independent or are hyper-local, and the article is written promotionally. SportingFlyer  T · C  01:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep + (Comments) I appreciate all the comments above, but agree with, after a quick google search I was able to find an article confirming he received a pro contract with Stevenage . I do believe he could pass WP:GNG, if time is taken to look into it, there are numerous sites mentioning him and quite a few articles focusing on him in particular. Small mentions: BBC article and Independent Article - only small mentions I know. Other articles more focused on him include: football.london article dailystar thenonleaguefootball National paper . By no means is this a clear and cut case, but I feel the above would warrant keeping the entry live. Not speaking just in this case, but should we not all be trying to make recommendations for amendment first, in order to keep articles alive, with deletion the last possible outcome...In any case, stay safe all! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukfootballfan (talk • contribs) 03:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck comment as this account is a confirmed sock of Wikipagecreator101. Number   5  7  22:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 06:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep After looking online at media articles & sites, can confirm he was a professional footballer with Stevenage & also represented Panjab FA at the Paddy Power Conifa World Cup in 2020. Feel he would agree with WP:GNG. Agree on small mentions in bigger news outlets (BBC & The Guardian & The Independent). Stories on football.london football.london article dailystar dailystar are very interesting, but doesn't mean this is a clear case. If pushed for an answer, I would say this edit should be kept. Riddles89  —Preceding undated comment added 08:10, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck comment as this account is a confirmed sock of Wikipagecreator101. Number   5  7  22:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Says the account created today, basically copypasting what Ukfootballfan said. You're not fooling anyone. For what it's worth, signing a contact means nothing, he had to actually play.--BlameRuiner (talk) 08:31, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - never actually made a professional appearance for Stevenage thus failing WP:GNG. Panjab aren't affliated with FIFA which again, isn't enough to fulfil the GNG or WP:NFOOTY criteria. A couple of name checks on websites doesn't meet notability criteria by any stretch of the imagination. --Jimbo[online] 12:51, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 08:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NFOOTY. Strongly suspect this is an autobiography too. Number   5  7  20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep If a moment is taken to look into the requirements for WP:GNG, the article meets the several of the criteria including "Significant coverage", "Reliable" & "Sources". A lot of arguments for both keep & delete above are quite petty if I'm honest, but the criteria is there in black & white for WP:GNG. By doing a quick google search, you're able to see many articles online ("significant coverage"), from varied media outlets ("sources") and the fact they are covered by different media outlets suggests it proves ("reliable"). Wikiepagecreator101 08:46, 06 May 2020
 * Comment: Thanks to the reply above (check user edit history), it's now obvious that the page under discussion was already AFD'd in March under a slightly different name: Articles for deletion/Jhai Singh Dhillon --BlameRuiner (talk) 08:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I think an SPI may be required here. If it's not sockpuppetry, it's blatant meatpuppetry. Number   5  7  09:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * With the old AfD, are we in WP:G4 territory here? Or are these different enough drafts? SportingFlyer  T · C  14:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Large parts of the text are identical, but it has some new material, so not sure it's quite a G4. However, I'd be amazed if this wasn't closed as delete now, given that three of the four keep !votes are from sock or meatpuppets. Number   5  7  22:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


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