Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jhoon Rhee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. alphachimp. 18:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Jhoon Rhee

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 * Delete. This article violates the notability criteria on WP:BIO. Though I have no issue with articles on minor sports figures in Tae Kwan Do and the like, WP:BIO requires objective 3rd party verification of sports figures in citation. All that has been supplied are links to advertisements for this individual's schools, and a Taekwando Hall of Fame Banquet advertisement, where Jhoon is the keynote speaker. Djma12 17:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * As a reference and guide for this conversation, I have taken the liberty to include WP:BIO's exact criteria for sports figures:
 * Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable, including college sports in the United States. Articles about first team squad members who have not made a first team appearance may also be appropriate, but only if the individual is at a club of sufficient stature that most members of its squad are worthy of articles. Third-party verification from a non-trivial publication outside of publications by sponsors of the sport or activity should be provided to demonstrate that the subject is widely recognized—meeting the first criterion—as performing in a fully professional league or at the highest level. (Emphasis inserted by me.) Djma12 17:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:BIO and WP:V in the sense that there are no 3rd party verifications of nontariety.  SkierRMH 18:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unless reliable secondary sources independent of the subject can be provided to substantiate notability. Guy (Help!) 18:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Tentative keep. He's had coverage in the Washington Post ("Rhee, widely recognized for introducing and popularizing taekwondo in the United States...") and the Seoul Times ("...rose to international fame as the most well-known grand master of Taekwondo in the US.... soon became to be known as 'the Father of American Taekwondo.'"); I suspect that there's quite a bit of worthwhile history to be dug up here. Kirill Lokshin 18:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Can we put those citations, along with why he is notable, in the article then? The article, as it stands, reads like a poorly written advertisement. Djma12 21:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


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