Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ji Yoon


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  Rcsprinter  (talk)  18:44, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Ji Yoon

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Not notable in her own right. No significant assertion of notability Fails WP:BAND. Refs mostly relate to her previous band or are at best passing references.  Velella  Velella Talk 13:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:N. Askadaleia (talk) 13:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep 4minute is a hugely popular band that got almost 56,000 page views in the last 30 days. Ji Yoon is probably the best-known member. This article was viewed almost 5,200 times in the last 30 days. Kauffner (talk) 14:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 21:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 12:49, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment. How does this meet N, arguments by assertion and by citing page/google hits are irrelevant. Source it or lose it folks. Spartaz Humbug! 12:51, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:BAND 'Criteria for musicians and ensembles' p6 ('is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles') and p10 ('Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc.') supported by references provided in article. Article needs work but does not fail WP:BAND which was given as justification for deletion. - Rushyo  Talk  16:34, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect I'd close this as a redirect, but, since there's only one voice calling for a close (the nominator) I figured I'd just do this instead. Maybe there are sources in Korean, but I can't find anything noteworthy in English media. Rushyo's point doesn't stand valid, as Yoon has only been member of one notable ensemble (see the footnote: Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases). As for criteria 10, see the annotation, which states, But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article); since Yoon has only performed in one track that fits that criteria, I don't think she's quite notable enough for her own article. A redirect to 4minute seems the most appropriate action here. m.o.p  19:53, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Disagree with the statement 'Yoon has only been member of one notable ensemble' as I'm seeing several, unless being a session musician doesn't count as being a real member of a band, which I think is a pretty WP:bold assertion. Even failing that, a redirect to 4minute would fail to appease criteria 10, since it doesn't either a) recognise the party as legitimately worthy of their own page or b) provide a meaningful redirect the appropriate article, but a completely different one instead! It seems clear in my mind the intent of that additional clause on p10 was to protect against it being used for someone with no other notes of point, which is not the case here. I make that assertion on the grounds the suggested remedy (redirect to the page of the TV show, in this instance) is clearly out of touch with this scenario. - Rushyo  Talk  23:48, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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