Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Leonard (Vivation)


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The result was   delete. j⚛e deckertalk 19:03, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Jim Leonard (Vivation)

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Obscure founder of an obscure cult; written in a promotional tone that implies bogus validity of his work, and without a single actual proper reference. Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:54, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Again, these are spurious and totally unfounded claims. Please point out the specific language that is "promotional" in nature? Playanaut (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * reply - "pioneer"; "used to resolve negative emotions and attachments". These are assertions made by followers of his ideas, not reliably sourced and certainly not neutrally stated. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:37, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete: Vivation is not notable, and by extension, Jim Leonard, known only for inventing it, is also not notable. I found no mentions of this person in reliable news media sources. I suspect that the references to this article are either unreliable or do not give Leonard any substantial coverage. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 02:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete All sources given are fringe works of proponents/followers/practitioners/adherents. No reliable sources. Promotion also includes "best known as the father of" if the subject is known where is the coverage outside the band of advocates? - - MrBill3 (talk) 10:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable, and may be not quite correct too. The one independent source I have found on Vivation says it was co-founded by "Phil Lawton" (who seems also to go by the name Phil Laut). Alexbrn talk 11:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not seem to pass notability requirements under WP:PROF or WP:BIO.--Eric Yurken (talk) 15:21, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notable figure who promoted non-notable variation in meditation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:41, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: Lack of coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. My own searches turned up nothing even faintly promising. Self-promotion based on self-published and primary sources of little value. Nothing worth saving or merging. Can be deleted in its entirety. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 11:43, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:BLPFRINGE. (Even though the man is dead, the argument that he is not notable for his fringe beliefs still applies.) jps (talk) 21:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:BIO.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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