Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Lewis (convicted of fraud, Ponzi scheme 2006)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep. --Luigi30 (Ta&lambda;k) 12:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Jim Lewis (convicted of fraud, Ponzi scheme 2006)

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This article is very unencycylopedic in tone, but there may be a germ of value in it. Subject is convicted criminal; sources provided. Article would require overhaul to meet with BLP concerns; also, I'm not sure whether the scope of the crime is or is not large enough to merit encyclopedic coverage. Delete, unless someone sees a way to rewrite this. Xoloz 21:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You write: "I'm not sure whether the scope of the crime is or is not large enough to merit encyclopedic coverage." -- Are you kidding! Defrauding people of untold millions isn't enough to warrant an entry in this encyclopedia?  We have countless articles on tons of obscure academics and historical figures...and this guy is as notable than them.  --Wassermann 14:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I just overhauled it a bit to be more encyclopediac in tone. However, I still have to go with delete, as his primary claims to WP:NOTABILITY appear to be "largest and longest" Ponzi scheme, things that are not supported by any of the sources (they just say it was "one of"). At best, still need some cleanups, secondary sources, and move to a less verbose pagename. DMacks 03:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * weak keep 20 years seems notably long, and $3000 million is also enough to say "one of" DGG 05:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 14:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Keep and Rename Rename Jim Lewis (convict). TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete if not overhauled to remove the massive BLP problems. The title, at least, needs to be changed. A search reveals it was once at James Paul Lewis, Jr., which seems better, or it could be Jim Lewis (fraud). Everyone deserves to be treated according to WP:BLP, and it appears a couple of editors have serious appetites for publicizing this man's crimes. Krakatoa  Katie  00:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'll tidy up the article. --Wassermann 14:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename -- this article does need to be renamed, though. --Wassermann 14:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep why does James Paul Lewis, Jr. redirect here, rather than hold the article. WP should avoid bio articles with "convict" or "fraud" in their titles. Carlossuarez46 16:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep but rename. Notable biographical topic, but article and title need work. &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 21:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The LA TIMES article referenced speaks a great deal as to the notability/notoriety of this figure. He worked his scheme remarkably well... &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 21:26, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


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