Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Meffert (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 16:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Jim Meffert
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Unsuccessful candidate for political office, with no strong claim of notability per WP:POLITICIAN otherwise. Note that in the prior discussion, even two of the four keeps were followed by "at least temporarily", and a third one still used the proximity of the election as its primary rationale for keeping — which means there wasn't even really a particularly strong consensus behind his notability, with just one person arguing that the mere fact of being a candidate should confer permanent notability. As with many other unsuccessful candidates for office, WP:BLP1E also applies here if he can't credibly be shown to be particularly notable for anything else. This was recently nominated for speedy deletion, further, but I've declined that and am bringing it to AFD because of the prior AFD discussion. Delete unless a credible case can be made that he's notable for more than just running as a candidate for office and losing. Bearcat (talk) 22:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect- To United States House of Representatives elections in Minnesota, 2010, where the linked coverage discusses the race in detail, and the section should be updated to include his name. Plausible search term, mentioned at United States House of Representatives elections, 2010, but only with result. Re-evaluate if elected, meets guidelines, or displaced by another individual. Dru of Id (talk) 01:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:38, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Important local figure in Minnesota. Though he received much attention for his challenge to Erik Paulsen, WP:BLP1E shouldn't apply here. Meffert was the president of the Minnesota PTA and CEO of the Minnesota Optometric Association for many years. Article is well referenced and meets WP:GNG. Gobōnobo  + c 20:39, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete This article meets ALL general requirements of WP:BLP1E. (1) "If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event." Yes: An unsuccessful congressional race. (2) "If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual." Yes: I'm sorry, but Meffert's occupation as the former president of the Minnesota PTA and former employee at the Minnesota Optometric Association is not notable. Not even those organizations have met Wiki notability requirements to justify articles of their own. (3) "It is not the case that the event is significant..." A single Minnesota 2010 congressional race that in no way changed the Minnesota delegation has no historical significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DelDrazo (talk • contribs) 21:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep per Gobonobo. – hysteria18 (talk) 19:41, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:07, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge/redirect per Dru of Id, and per standard practice at WP:POLITICIAN regarding candidates for notable office who are not themselves notable. The claims that he is notable for his other activities are (pardon me) laughable. Former president of the state PTA? Really? BTW that Minnesota congressional race article needs work; it doesn't seem to list ANY names except the winners; very unusual for such an article. --MelanieN (talk) 03:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep The major party candidates in two party elections are or should be considered notable, even the ones who lose. I consider president of the state (not local PTA) a reasonably plausible claim also--it's a major organization.  DGG ( talk ) 01:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
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