Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jo Moore


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The result was redirect to List of political scandals in the United Kingdom per WP:ATD and WP:CHEAP. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:26, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Jo Moore

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This is an article about a living person, who seems to be notable only for one event, so I an nominating this for deletion per WP:BLP1E (the 'Subjects notable only for one event' section of the biography of living people policy). She appears to be only notable for the 9/11-related email and has since retrained as a teacher, so it would seem unnecessary to keep an article on her specifically. The details of what happened can be covered in other articles. We do have quite a few articles on British government special advisors, so maybe I am missing some level of notability that this role confers (some have gone on to have political careers). Carcharoth (talk) 12:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * She is notable for only one event, but the event led to an expression which became useful and is still deployed on relevant occasions, viz: "It's a good day to bury bad news." Her infamous email was an early example of cynical media manipulation, and should be preserved for the historical record as an example of how political advisers were already behaving before the dawning of the age of Fake News.
 * This is an interesting AfD and needs some reflection. After researching this a bit, I'm inclined to think that there are useable sources but they aren't basically about her.  They're about news management.  At present we do have news management but it's a redirect to a rudimentary semi-stub at managing the news.  We also have media manipulation.  I think there may be an opportunity to reorganise all this related content in a better way, reusing and refactoring the content in Jo Moore so it's about news management rather than about her personally.  At the end of that process, I agree with Carcharoth that Jo Moore should be a redlink; but we've got to preserve attribution until we get there so I wouldn't want to delete it quite yet.—S Marshall T/C 13:38, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Not to get too off topic, but if anyone participating in this AfD wants to look at other SPAD articles, ones like Lizzie Loudon (who now works for Rory Stewart but you would struggle to learn that from her WP article), that might be useful as well (some SPADs were recently made peers, such as Elizabeth Sanderson, Baroness Sanderson of Welton and Joanna Penn, Baroness Penn, so while controversial in itself, that settles the notability question there). It seems that in general most UK government Special Advisors (recent ones at least) do go on to a career that can be covered by Wikipedia (often as MPs), but some don't. The careers can be a bit up and down until they end up becoming notable. Carcharoth (talk) 14:07, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 14:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete some special advisors go on to become notable. Moore on the other hand engaged in downright unethical activities and was driven from politicis. She was not notable then and is not notable now.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of political scandals in the United Kingdom.4meter4 (talk) 03:05, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:30, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of political scandals in the United Kingdom, by WP:BLP1E. Ralbegen (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SINGLEEVENT and lack of notability. TruthGuardians (talk) 05:06, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E and WP:BLP generally. Redirect as per above is fine, but I'd be cautious, since it's unclear if it quite belongs there. Not opposed to this being included in some sort of public relations/media strategy sort of article. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 21:17, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


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