Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jo Ramos


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The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 23:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Jo Ramos

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IP contested PROD without explanation. PROD reasoning was: "Fails WP:GNG as an individual. All notability is based on her father and notability is not inherited." Ducknish (talk) 21:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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 *  Delete Keep - Unfortunately, unless a first child gains notability for his/her own achievements, then notability is not inherited. In her case, her death did receive a lot of coverage, but only because she was former President Ramos' daughter. As far as I know, there isn't enough coverage of her (apart from being a first child) during her lifetime. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC) But it appears that she was a musician of some note, which does establish notability (especially with the coverage below), but I didn't know that since I was born in the penultimate year of the Ramos administration (1997) and it appears that she was mainly active before I was born. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:24, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, from the sources I can find in the news search the subject has received significant coverage from multiple non-primary reliable sources, as can be seen here, and here, as two examples of the many articles where the subject of this AfD was the primary subject of the article. Therefore, the subject passes WP:GNG & Criteria #1 of WP:MUSBIO. I understand the concern about the individual being primarily notable due to her relationship with her father, Fidel V. Ramos, and that the majority of easily find-able web content is regarding her death, however if one does a little digging, you'll find that the subject of this AfD received significant coverage not directly related to her father, or her death.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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