Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joakim Engberg


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The result was   delete. L Faraone  00:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Joakim Engberg

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He's an MMA fighter with no top tier fights and the only sources are to organizational web sites or other routine coverage. The lack of significant coverage means he fails both WP:GNG and WP:NMMA. Mdtemp (talk) 21:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep - seems to be a failry established MMA fighter with a couple of significant matches behind him.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You should cite some policy reason he is notable, not just WP:ILIKEIT. Astudent0 (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I did, he has been in a couple of significanat matches which proves he is in the world elite of his sport. --BabbaQ (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That sounds more like WP:NOTINHERITED. Since he doesn't meet the notability criteria for MMA fighters at WP:NMMA, the kickboxer criteria at WP:KICK, and lacks the significant independent coverage required by WP:GNG, in what field are you claiming he's shown notability? Astudent0 (talk) 00:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Lacks non-routine coverage and fails WP:NMMA. Astudent0 (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Non-routine? This person is dedicated to his sport he doesnt have time to "play around on the social scene" like his American counter-parts.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:36, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently you don't understand what significant independent coverage means. It means that people working for reliable sources with no ties to him have to be writing about him, and not just routine sports coverage.  It has nothing to do with what he writes or what's on youtube, twitter, or facebook. Astudent0 (talk) 00:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unless more sourcing can be found for his kickboxing career that would warrant keeping him on WP:GNG grounds. Luchuslu (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG, WP:MMANOT and WP:NOTSTATSBOOK. --TreyGeek (talk) 04:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMMA. LlamaAl (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
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