Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joanne Catherall


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The result was   keep. Clear consensus that she meets notability criteria. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  13:50, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Joanne Catherall

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Notability. Catherall is just a backing vocalist and not a very good one at that, has never done lead vocals unlike Sulley who has her own single, article is just a rehash of The Human League which covers her sufficiently Laestrygonian3 (talk) 01:16, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: How good or bad she sings is irrelevant. However, the article is really scraping the bottom of the barrel for sources, citing a TV interview from 1995 (15 years ago!), which we have no means of verifying. None of the reference sources are specifically about her, and at best her mention is merely incidental. If she was notable, there would be many more articles available. Fails WP:BAND.-- Lester  06:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. She's clearly notable. Duplication with the Human League article can and should be trimmed. How good she is at singing is irrelevant. Sufficient coverage of Catherall exists - see Google Books, plus news items, e.g. Chester Chronicle, Knutsford Guardian, Daily Mail. Including details of all the members in The Human League would make it too long, and including only this one would unbalance it.--Michig (talk) 06:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * She's a member of The Human League, not just a backing singer hired by the band, and coverage exists going back 30 years, much of it from the early 80s and not available online. A merge to The Human League of the relevant, sourceable content is the very least that should happen.--Michig (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Michig. The subject is a longtime member of a band that has had #1 hits both in the US and UK. Contrary to the nom, Catherall shared lead vocals on "(Keep Feeling) Fascination" (#2 UK, #8 US) and "Human" (#1 US, #8 UK), to name just two. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly notable member of The Human League, providing lead vocals on songs that have charted internationally. Clearly inappropriate nomination stating subjective opinions on the talent of the subject, rather than providing rationale for deletion according to policy or guideline. Cindamuse (talk) 11:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fat, untalented, non notable Backing vocalist therefor fails WP:BAND. Shonuff The Shogun of Harlem (talk) 11:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep for reasons stated by Cindamuse. yorkshiresky (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Michig, per Cindamuse Keristrasza (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Catherall is a long-standing, key member of a band who have had multiple international hits. As stated already, she shared lead vocals on several of these, and appeared in the vast majority of the band's videos. If this doesn't make someone notable, then we'd best delete the articles for just about all instrumentalists from every British band of the last 20 years, from Blur to The Arctic Monkeys. Jplarkin (talk) 10:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.