Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joao Constancia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The article has been significantly edited (and improved) since the start of the AfD (which is no bad thing) and focusing on the concerns of the nominator. Consensus seems to have swung towards keep since Koikefan's !vote. (non-admin closure) Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:52, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Joao Constancia

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While the band BoybandPH is clearly notable, the individually members are not. All sources are articles about the band, not about the individual members. Recommend leaving as a simple redirect. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:17, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:17, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Restore redirect In the years to come should JC's career meet WP:GNG then the article can be restored and updated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to band. The individual members do not have notability on their own.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:47, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect and salt to prevent recreation. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 16:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Not sure why this discussion has been limited to BoyBandPH. Joao is the most notable member from that band but his notability arises not from BoyBandPH but from everything he's done after: starring in He's Into Her (the most popular Filipino TV show right now) as one of the 3 main lead actors, starring as one of the three main actors in Four Sisters Before the Wedding, a sequel to one of the most popular Filipino films of all time, and starring as the lead in his own Star Cinema movie, My Lockdown Romance. There are very few things more notable in Philippine entertainment than starring as the lead in a movie from Star Cinema, which is the largest and most notable movie production company in the country. Moreover, My Lockdown Romance was, I believe, considered the company's first BL movie, another point impacting its notability. Finally, all of these mentioned shows and films are from ABS-CBN, the largest media company in the Philippines and Southeast Asia. Joao also has 1million Instagram followers. So yes, he's not notable if you're only basing it off BoyBandPH but BoyBandPH was a long time ago. The aforementioned roles implicate points 1 and 3 for Entertainers in WP:BIO. Furthermore, a search of My Lockdown Romance on Google News will yield extensive coverage from a variety of reliable media sources, some even international. I realize none of this information is currently on the Wiki page but, per WP:NOTE, "Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article." Koikefan (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per Koikefan. I found some reliable sources which talk about him and his movie & TV roles:, , , and . That said, the article article needs to be updated and cleaned up a bit. Other than that, it's good enough to pass WP:NACTOR.  ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 10:14, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Koikefan. Joao is known for member of BoybandPH and his role as Lee Roi Gozon in He's Into Her AnsrieJames9 (talk) 01:44, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep and develop further. Joao certainly has a career besides his membership in the band. This is the best opportunity to improve on his individual aspects and career beyond the band before the article is reverted to a redirect. werldwayd (talk) 19:01, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for your input. I have made some substantive changes to the article, as well as developed it further by integrating more information regarding his TV/film roles, as well as adding reliable external references/sources. Hopefully this addresses most of the outstanding issues with the article.Koikefan (talk) 00:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:NACTOR per above arguments. SBKSPP (talk) 00:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.