Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jockin' Jay-Z (Dope Boy Fresh)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. to delete. Merging or keeping it where it is-editorial discussion StarM  03:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Jockin' Jay-Z (Dope Boy Fresh)
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I am nominating this for Afd as the article lacks of substantial independent coverage, thus failing our notability guideline. I'd also propose a redirect to The Blueprint 3. — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 06:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, why does Twinkle keep messing up automatic Afd's? — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 06:39, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom. Also no reference as a single. SE KinG (talk) 07:26, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect: to Jay-Z. Fails WP:MUSIC. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 13:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Vote changed to keep: Nice Job HC. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 02:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't a redirect to the song's album The Blueprint 3 be better? — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 01:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Charting single—meets WP:MUSIC (refs added). — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  02:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I should also mention it's a currently charting single. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  14:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, WP:MUSIC says that songs need to meet notability guidelines of substantial coverage, which is no-where to be found. And it is 100% irrelevant whether it is a single or not. — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 21:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it doesn't. It does, however, say "Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts... are probably notable." I never said that it being a single makes it notable, it's that it's a charting single. I point out that it's currently charting because it could easily climb ever higher on the chart. Whether it does or not is irrelevant, because it has already been ranked on two national music charts. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  00:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How can you deny the truth? The first sentence from the guideline is "All articles on albums, singles or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." This goes above any general rule of thumb as the one you mentioned, hence why your quotation ends with "…probably notable". Dismissing my statements as false when they clearly are true really is not helpful to the discussion, nor it does any good in the support of your position. — Do U(knome)?  yes...or no 04:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into The Blueprint 3. While it has charted, it fails to meet the criteria to allow a stand alone article; "notability aside, a separate article is only appropriate on a song when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article".   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 11:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Hello Control. -- Baby G. ( talk to me ) 02:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Blueprint 3 per Esradekan. It's a two three sentence stub. --Wolfer68 (talk) 09:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete- The song will never be released as single due to too much leaking so now it is just defunct even though still charting.Xx1994xx (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.