Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jody Raffoul


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The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 05:43, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Jody Raffoul

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Unnotable journeyman singer-songwriter. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Every Morning (there's a halo...) 02:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Nothing here passes WP:NMUSIC — a concert tour has to be supported by reliable source coverage about the tour, not just asserted, to count as a notable tour that makes its artist wikipediable, and nothing else stated here even attempts to pass any other criterion at all — and this isn't reliably sourced. The only properly footnoted reference is a press release on a concert listings platform, not a reliable or notability-assisting media outlet, and the only other source here is a BBC News article, linkfarmed as an external link rather than being cited as a footnote, which isn't about Jody Raffoul, but merely mentions him in passing within an article about the general economic travails of Detroit. So that's not a source that actually demonstrates Raffoul's notability either. I also think either I might be having a stroke or somebody needs to go hunting, because I could literally swear that we've seen an article come to AFD before about a musician from Detroit whose main notability claim was getting to open for Bon Jovi. Bearcat (talk) 18:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - most of the work has already been done by above and I am in complete agreement. I will add that beyond Bon Jovi, I can find no evidence that this musician really opened for all of the big names listed in the article's first paragraph; if any of it is true he probably opened for singular local gigs when those artists passed through his town. He might be notable in his local area, but otherwise he has not gotten too far beyond the Bon Jovi contest. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 19:58, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete The attention for the award (not an award that meets notability standards, btw) is not significant per WP:MUSIC. Nothing else can be verified with anything other than press releases, self downloads and minor coverage. Even authorship and maintenance of this page seems to be COI promotional from various SPA and IP addresses. Other awards are local and not wikipedia notable. The film "Grabtime" appears to be minor and exists only on self-download sites. The other film, "Annabel and Bear" does not mention his contribution in the IMDB page credits. And while social media followers are discounted by WP because of unreliability in their authenticity, it is revealing his numbers are comparatively small. Overall, the subject appears to be a successful local music scene journeyman, but nothing beyond run-of-the-mill attention and fails WP:MUSIC per a lack of significant independent 3rd party coverage. ShelbyMarion (talk) 13:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)


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