Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Aaron


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Soft delete - I'll be happy to userfy this on request or undelete if additional sources are found. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 08:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Joe Aaron

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Non-notable surfer and surfboard designer. Blatantly promotionally (for the product line; see article) and puffily written (by an editor with a COI-indicating name), a Google search brings up nothing but Wikipedia mirrors or other sites with the same article verbatim. One Orange County Register article, cited and linked there, covers him in some depth; but, if I understand the relevant guidelines correctly, this alone does not suffice. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 05:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Ri l ey    00:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Delete, insufficient significant coverage found in reliable sources for the subject to pass WP:GNG, WP:ATHLETE, or WP:ANYBIO.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:04, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep The article needs a major rewrite, but he does seem to have received a lot of coverage in regional reliable sources (the Orange County Register, the Dana Point/San Clemente Times, the North County Times) and in surfing magazines. His notability is either regional or limited to the surfing community, which is why I said "weak" keep, but IMO regional notability (as opposed to purely local) is good enough. --MelanieN (talk) 01:29, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting point, I wouldn't have expected that given the article's tone. By the way, the link you provided does not work for me. הסרפד  (call me “Hasirpad”) (formerly R——bo) 04:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It works for me, but here are examples of some of the articles found there:   Unfortunately all of these are to the same source: Orange County Register. There were articles in Fox News LA, Dana Point Times, San Clemente Times, and Beach Reporter but they are all dead links now. There are also many links to Surfline but they smell like press releases so they don't count. So that leaves only the O.C. Register that is still online (of course, being available online is not a requirement for a Reliable Source). There are also articles in Portuguese  which I cannot evaluate. --MelanieN (talk) 17:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Pathetic Keep - (that's less than "weak"!). Melanie, that Portuguese article is more or less a passing mention, maybe a hair more. Honestly, this one is right on the wire for me - so I default to a keep, conditional on a drastic rewrite of the article. I have commented out most of the promotional content in the article just to see what is left. In time, Aaron might just garner a few more sources.  David_FLXD  (Talk) 20:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great job on rewriting the article, the tone is fine now, but I'm thoroughly unconvinced of the subject's notability. הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 20:16, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly? If I'd found it the way you did, I would have nominated it too! Now I've come over all politically correct WP-style.  David_FLXD  (Talk) 20:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
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