Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Dudgeon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete Joe Dudgeon. The consensus is clear that Joe Dudgen fails both WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG and it also appears that there is a consensus to delete Magnus Eikrem as well. However, the arguments put forth by Graeme Bartlett (and Favonian weakly) suggest there is a chance he may pass WP:GNG so considering that issue in a separate nomination seems reasonable. The result for Magnus Eikrem is no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 16:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Joe Dudgeon

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The subject of this article fails WP:ATHLETE as he has not made a competitive, first-team appearance for a professional football club or for a senior national team in a FIFA-sanctioned match. – PeeJay 13:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 13:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both articles fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 13:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Both fail WP:ATHLETE as non-notables. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 13:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both articles fail WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG Zanoni (talk) 20:06, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:ATHLETE does not supersede the general notability guideline - articles are sufficiently referenced to pass that. 96.39.62.90 (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * An interesting comment to make considering that Dudgeon's article contains precisely ZERO references...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Magnus Eikrem per WP:GNG. Favonian (talk) 21:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Joe Dudgeon per nom. Favonian (talk) 21:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Magnus Eikrem as it has two independent reliable references. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both as per the nom. The Eikrem references fail WP:NTEMP. --Jimbo[online] 14:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both, as the Eikrem references do not meet the "significant coverage" test of WP:GNG, as almost all of them are just passing mentions in reserve or youth team match reports. Also does not meet WP:ATHLETE as mentioned above. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:05, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Neither have played in a fully professional match. Argyle 4 Life  talk  00:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:45, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep both Notable. Should not be deleted. Eikrem is captain of the Manchester United reserves and Dudgeon is notable too. Velo  ciraptor  888  14:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * By what objective criteria are you judging notability? Neither Eikrem nor Dudgeon has ever played a first-team match, and until they do neither is notable by the letter of WP:ATHLETE. Eikrem is marginally more notable by virtue of the nature of his transfer to United, but there still aren't enough significant third-party sources covering him to justify keeping an article. – PeeJay 19:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Eikrem has been in the first team squad many times ( including the game tomorrow) and his role as reserve team captain and a squad number justify not deleting the page. edit: This article also mentions that he may play in tomorrows match here:http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/engelsk/artikkel.php?artid=10042198.--109.153.66.117 (talk) 20:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.