Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Hawley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was merge and redirect. Johnleemk | Talk 12:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Joe Hawley
Appears to be vanity. Pessimistic Delete. Blnguyen 02:26, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

It isn't vainity, it was made by a fan, not by Joe himself. This page should not be deleted. Edited by Ibram, 9:42 Eastern Time, 11 Jan 2006.
 * Comment. First post by this anon user, for AfD log to be the first place visited by a new user would possibly imply a link to the author of the article. How is Hawley notable then??? Blnguyen 02:45, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Below noted is that Tally Hall is the author of the movies. He is credited as the "official moviesmith" of the band and producer of the videos. If most notability is from Tally Hall, would a merge be in order?
 * Neutral. Delete as vanity. - Rudykog 02:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I made this in hopes of adding a page for each of the members of the band. I am a diehard Tally Hall fan. I don't see how it is vanity if it is a fan simply supplying info. --Wickerchair 02:57, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment, read Vanity guidelines for more information. - Rudykog 03:09, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you for actually helping me. I will make some edits. I tried to rid of opinionated statements. Good now? --Wickerchair 03:21, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Better, but what about notability? Has the average person or a large minority of the population heard of him or even this band? (This is discussion is getting rather large and should be moved to the discussion at the top if you wish to continue). - Rudykog 03:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete: there is no indication of the notability of the person or the films or the site that serves them. I am not impressed. Hu 02:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Sorry, I am new. I live by tally hall. Yes, TH is a fairly unknown indie band from Michigan, but if you went to Albinoblacksheep.com, you'd see the most viewed video files: Directions, Banana man. He edited those. He has also won awards for songwriting. It's not vanity if submitted by someone else. Why delete it?


 * Keep. I'm local to this band, so I may be misjudging their notability (though I've never seen them) but they seems to be rapidly growing in popularity, with a CD released, touring outside the midwest, etc. I would argue that Hawley and the band are both on the lower end of notability. As for albinoblacksheep.com, I really don't think there's much question of its notability, despite Hu's annoying attitude. I think the author should have a chance to improve the article(s). rodii 03:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with Tally Hall. Not notable outside of the band. The albino site actually says that Tally Hall is the author of the videos, not Joe Hawley. -- Astrokey44 |talk 05:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with Tally Hall. KillerChihuahua?!? 09:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.