Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe McGlynn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Probably WP:TOOSOON. Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Joe McGlynn

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Was draftified, and was improved before returning to mainspace. Unfortunately, there's not a single in-depth piece about this footballer from an independent, reliable, secondary source. Still fails WP:GNG. There are several local articles which mention him, but all but one are not in-depth, and all are routine sports coverage.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:33, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, England,  and Scotland.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Clearly meets WP:SPORTSBASIC based on the article and the sources on it. Very young player with ongoing career who has played for a Premier League club. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * - for clarity, he's never played in the Premier League. He has played for Burnley's under-age teams in the youth leagues, but the highest level of senior football he has played at is the National League (level 5) -- ChrisTheDude (talk)
 * Keep there is sufficient sourcing to show notability. GiantSnowman 10:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep clearly passes GNG with sources already on pae, lazy nomination.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - not a single in-depth source from an independent, reliable reference = "clearly passes GNG"? Onel 5969  TT me 19:43, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG. Outta the six sources that are independent of Joe McGlynn, The Guardian is a paragraph, the Burnley Express is a routine contract signing story, this contains a single sentence on him, this is a routine match report, this has one sentence on him and this is that he scored a couple of goals. Dougal18 (talk) 13:57, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The first source gooes into his background and even provides yearly updates on his progress, the second source defiantly does not merely contain a "single sentence on him", and the third and fourth sources also goes into more detail about him and his prospects for the first team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Das osmnezz (talk • contribs)


 * Delete: BLP Fails GNG and BIO. Sources in the article do not show N. BEFORE didn't show anything that is IS RS with SIGCOV showing N, just promom, ROUTINE, primary. Source eval table:
 * Primary, not SIGCOV :: 1.  "Premier League clubs publish 2021/22 retained lists". www.premierleague.com. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Primary, not SIGCOV :: 2. ^ "Premier League clubs publish 2020/21 retained lists". www.premierleague.com. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Prome opinion list :: 3. ^ Jump up to:a b c d "20 of the best talents at Premier League clubs". theguardian.com.
 * Database record :: 4. ^ Jump up to:a b "Joe McGlynn – Hyde United". hydeunited.co.uk. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Database record :: 5. ^ InCrowd. "Joe McGlynn". Burnley Football Club. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Primary, not SIGCOV :: 6. ^ "Burnley duo pen first professional contracts". burnleyexpress.net.
 * ROUTINE, mention, not SIGCOV :: 7. ^ "The exciting next generation of Burnley talent as clutch of strikers emerge on scene". lancs.live.
 * ROUTINE, mention, not SIGCOV :: 8. ^ "Burnley's goalscoring generation hint at bright future and will hope to capitalise on ALK vision". lancs.live.
 * ROUTINE, mention, not SIGCOV :: 9. ^ "Five of Burnley's next generation to keep an eye on ahead of FA Youth Cup tie". lancs.live.
 * Interview :: 10. ^ "Joe McGlynn's First Interview".
 * ROUTINE, not SIGCOV :: 11. ^ "Striker McGlynn Signs On Loan". www.oldhamathletic.co.uk. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Primary, not SIGCOV :: 12. ^ "Joe McGlynn". Official Website of the Harriers - Kidderminster Harriers FC. Retrieved 2023-03-04.
 * Game story, mention, ROUTINE :: 13. ^ "Cameroon U20 v Scotland U20". www.scottishfa.co.uk. Retrieved 2023-03-19.
 * ROUTINE, not SIGCOV :: 14. ^ "Gifted, grafters and goalscorers - The Burnley strike force of the future". lancs.live.
 * WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability to avoid abuse per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV).  // Timothy :: talk  06:59, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 15:26, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete As per source analysis by Timothy. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - Many of the sources are not necessarily routine... he gets this coverage due to his reputation and performances. All the sources combined make a Wikipedia page that meets WP:SPORTSBASIC. Wikipedia is supposed to be a source of knowledge, and this article is a "yes" to The one question. McGlynn is clearly a topic of interest, having been listed in The Guardian's "Next Generation 2019" (The Guardian has tracked his progress since that year as well, which shows the level of interest) and the topic of many other sources, which combined, make for a decent sized article. Very young player with ongoing career. On a side note, I find the double standard of the most consistent pro-deletion users very frustrating since most of them either support SNG for another topic where the article doesn't need to meet WP:GNG or have sometimes created articles with less coverage than this one... (I support article creation, but their double standard is very frustrating).  Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - This is a case of WP:TOOSOON as the article fails WP:GNG; the 9th and 14th links above contain some useful prose from a publisher that is actually independent of McGlynn, but it's nowhere near significant coverage. Probably after McGlynn plays a bit of professional senior football, this will change so draftifying is an option as well. Jogurney (talk) 17:46, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


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